Path of Exile: Sacrifice of the Vaal

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DalaiLama escreveu:

Spoiler

Well... one could use the same argument that GGG is not judging you, so you shouldn't be forcing your "pointless judgement" on their game. However, I do think that your opinion, and the 'why do you care' both have a right to be represented. Both of you put forth some reasons to support your position. Both of you chose to ignore the other person's reasons.

This is a draw.

As for the points you put forth:

1) GGG has clearly stated that this is an adult game.

2)Nudity is not more offensive than violence. For the average person if they had to witness someone in real life naked and having sex versus someone being tortured, this would be blatantly clear.

In PoE, we are getting a taste of both so far.

Spoiler

Many people have a love/hate/fear/obsession/repulsion thing going on when they witness something sexual, especially visual nudity. Culture, religion and upbringing aside, there is a physical reason for this.

Our visual cortexes are right in the center of the occipital lobe which govern our emotions. Our logic is carried out in the frontal lobe. The occipital lobe is far older, being a part of the basic mammalian brain and it has a faster and greater response (neurochemically) than our frontal lobes.

It is more difficult for people to control this response, but it can be done.

3)When you look at large corrupt empires - such as Rome, you will find that libertine attitudes are prevalent. Sarn and the Vaal are no more vulgar than Rome was. Look up the word fornix and its relation to fornication. In Rome, any nook, arch, or semi-private location was good enough for sexual activity.

4)The announcement clearly states why the nudity/sexuality is part of the story.

Hers was a sovereignty of seduction.

..of attraction and manipulation

She wished to paint her people in shades of immortal beauty. Instead, she drowned them in blood.

It is clear from this that Atziri's sexuality and her obsession with the body is part and parcel of her rise to power and the doom of her subjects.

Simply put, you could say that Atziri's depravity killed the Vaal. An entire civilization wiped out because of her viewpoint on sexuality. Without knowing more of the story so far, it seems that to Atziri, the sexuality of a person wasn't just a bodily function, but an ultimate physical and spiritual goal.


5) Dancing by itself was considered offensive and evil (and in some places, still is).

6)Witchcraft is considered offensive to many, people are still killed for the crime today in parts of the world.

7)GGG could take out all sorts of things from the game, violence, weapons, magic, capitalism. Instead of being exiles (which is a negative idea and degrading to the player), we could be welcomed to Wraeclast as immigrants.

Instead of battling monsters, our characters would attend school, work jobs (for living wages of course) and pay taxes.

Path of Happy People


[/sarcasm]

That sounds so much more fun, doesn't it?

[/sarcasm off]

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DalaiLama escreveu:

Spoiler

Well... one could use the same argument that GGG is not judging you, so you shouldn't be forcing your "pointless judgement" on their game. However, I do think that your opinion, and the 'why do you care' both have a right to be represented. Both of you put forth some reasons to support your position. Both of you chose to ignore the other person's reasons.

This is a draw.

As for the points you put forth:

1) GGG has clearly stated that this is an adult game.

2)Nudity is not more offensive than violence. For the average person if they had to witness someone in real life naked and having sex versus someone being tortured, this would be blatantly clear.

In PoE, we are getting a taste of both so far.

Spoiler

Many people have a love/hate/fear/obsession/repulsion thing going on when they witness something sexual, especially visual nudity. Culture, religion and upbringing aside, there is a physical reason for this.

Our visual cortexes are right in the center of the occipital lobe which govern our emotions. Our logic is carried out in the frontal lobe. The occipital lobe is far older, being a part of the basic mammalian brain and it has a faster and greater response (neurochemically) than our frontal lobes.

It is more difficult for people to control this response, but it can be done.

3)When you look at large corrupt empires - such as Rome, you will find that libertine attitudes are prevalent. Sarn and the Vaal are no more vulgar than Rome was. Look up the word fornix and its relation to fornication. In Rome, any nook, arch, or semi-private location was good enough for sexual activity.

4)The announcement clearly states why the nudity/sexuality is part of the story.

Hers was a sovereignty of seduction.

..of attraction and manipulation

She wished to paint her people in shades of immortal beauty. Instead, she drowned them in blood.

It is clear from this that Atziri's sexuality and her obsession with the body is part and parcel of her rise to power and the doom of her subjects.

Simply put, you could say that Atziri's depravity killed the Vaal. An entire civilization wiped out because of her viewpoint on sexuality. Without knowing more of the story so far, it seems that to Atziri, the sexuality of a person wasn't just a bodily function, but an ultimate physical and spiritual goal.


5) Dancing by itself was considered offensive and evil (and in some places, still is).

6)Witchcraft is considered offensive to many, people are still killed for the crime today in parts of the world.

7)GGG could take out all sorts of things from the game, violence, weapons, magic, capitalism. Instead of being exiles (which is a negative idea and degrading to the player), we could be welcomed to Wraeclast as immigrants.

Instead of battling monsters, our characters would attend school, work jobs (for living wages of course) and pay taxes.

Path of Happy People


[/sarcasm]

That sounds so much more fun, doesn't it?

[/sarcasm off]

So good.

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DalaiLama escreveu:

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ThornOfSteel escreveu:

Looking forward to more lore regarding the Vaal and Atziri...people will be offended but that's how the cookie crumbles. Sounding great so far, GGG!

Not lore, but some speculation:

How does Atziri get released?

anagraming "Sacrifice of the Vaal" (since conspiracy >logic)

we find out it all started in a Seedy Sarn Saloon whose moniker shouted out "loose women" - the


"Erotic Lava Fish Cafe"



A feverish lactic Oaf,

Vaal ace officer hits

Erotic Lava Fish Cafe.


A cave for ethics fail

Hive of stiffer cloaca.


Ho - "I crave facial fest"

If Vaal Frees- Chaotic

feast of archaic evil

Chaos free- civil feat



Hi Sir, Face of Vaal Sect



And thus, Atziri was free.

So what can we expect in act IV and V?

Once again turning to hidden anagram info:



Act IV


Sea Cliff Rhoa Active

A race of evil catfish

Face Vaal foe - Sir Itch





Act V:


Face rhoa fecal visit

Roaches fail act five

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maxkuzmin escreveu:

Does this mean the end of domination league?

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DeathRiver escreveu:

I am a new player, started just about a week ago, and I don't see a reason why new players should be able to catch up to someone who has been playing for a year ago or so.

<SNIP>

I do agree with the opinion that drop rates need to be changed. Seriously, Unique bosses don't have an absolute drop of at least one rare? That's bull! Rares aren't exactly good if they don't have what you need on them anyway, so why not let them drop a bit more frequently?