Deadly Infusion should be halved or something

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Boem escreveu:

The difference in this thread is, that scrotie is not requesting a nerf and is perfectly aware that things might/can change before ascendancy hits.

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ScrotieMcB escreveu:

I normally don't advocate the nerf of anything which hasn't even seen the light of play yet; however, in this case I feel I must make an exception. This is the single most OP Ascendancy feature, period; it stands over everything else every released Ascendancy class can do, and by a lot.

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ScrotieMcB escreveu:

Yeah, what boem said is weird.

But it is worth noting that I'm open to a "nerf" which gives it more raw power, at the cost of substantially increased investment. What I'm primarily worried about is the same cheap Power Charge stacking Assassin crit builds being the new meta. As it is now, Deadly Infusion is basically instant 95% crit off almost nothing except Ascendancy nodes alone, even with weapons/spells which usually can't crit consistently; those extra nodes will go into survivability and make tanky characters with glassy offense.

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Vesuvius079 escreveu:

Am I missing something here?

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allbusiness escreveu:

But you don't know if they will release something like Thorns Flesh again which would absolutely wreck an Assassin character. All of this is basically worthless to discuss without knowing what the mobs actually do also. Remember when GGG said life nodes were getting nerfed but we're going to reduce mob damage? Yeah. They reduce all life nodes by a tremendous amount, and barely nerf mob damage by maybe 10% resulting in everyone going ES that league.

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ScrotieMcB escreveu:

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allbusiness escreveu:

But you don't know if they will release something like Thorns Flesh again which would absolutely wreck an Assassin character. All of this is basically worthless to discuss without knowing what the mobs actually do also. Remember when GGG said life nodes were getting nerfed but we're going to reduce mob damage? Yeah. They reduce all life nodes by a tremendous amount, and barely nerf mob damage by maybe 10% resulting in everyone going ES that league.

I sincerely doubt GGG is going to bring back reflected damage in a big way. Maybe they'll find a way to make it apply to chaos damage, since that seems to be a big thing now; maybe not. But I think those days are gone.

There aren't a lot of things they could do where both Deadly Infusion would be okay as currently presented, and there would be design space to go crit as anything other than Deadly Infusion. I guess if they have something particularly clever in mind, then perhaps my concerns are moot.

By the way, I'm the guy who suggested life nodes get nerfed in the first place, and I didn't even suggest mob damage get reduced (instead, I suggested base life get doubled... which, eventually, is what GGG did).

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ScrotieMcB escreveu:

Shadow/Assassin "notable" on Ascendancy tree
10% increased Critical Strike Multiplier per Power Charge
+0.5% Base Critical Strike Chance per Power Charge

So what we're talking about here, with just the Shadow area power charge and the Merciless Bandit reward, is 20-50% more critical strike chance, depending on the weapon/skill used, and 50% increased critical strike multiplier. And that's just a mild example; with some builds, Deadly Infusion can mean doubled critical strike chance and 100% increased critical strike multiplier.

That's just insane.

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ScrotieMcB escreveu:

Yeah, what boem said is weird.

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RogueMage escreveu:

Why not just cut to the chase with the ultimate mod they're lusting after:

Your attacks and spells have 100% Chance to Crit.