Why Poe is becoming PAY TO WIN GAME - free discusion

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Strandedmoon escreveu:

Well, PoE is already Pay to win game. But that's normal. If there wasn't payment then there won't be development of the game.
In the game also you Pay to Win - Why? 2-4 Chaos per Labyrinth Carry, up to 10 Chaos orbs for Atziri, Uber-Labs, Uber-Atziri carry. It's normal. Noone won't to go for free and as sooner people realize it, they can see that the game is for first Free to play and to have fun. That doesn't mean you will Win the game - Go to the Shaper, Uber Atziri and so on for free. It is seen that people on Higher Levels - 90 and So for sure paid something about "cosmetic" things. Some people pay to win, because they feel greater when they win in the game over "noobs", other's don't pay, got bored and find their next game. That's how it is and how it will be in virtual world.
Tell me will you go in Lab, Uber Lab and Atziri for free and alone? You won't - I think most of the people are like that. Some aren't of course. am of the most people that don't go alone.
So, take a deep breath, play until you have Fun for Free and move on with your life - real or virtual to another game or not.
This is based on my experience - I don't mind to pay orbs in the game. I play it for fun and I live my own life.

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Pyrokar escreveu:

And yea those items do sell like candy and it does add up to an incredible advantage against the users who don't have them.

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Strandedmoon escreveu:

Well, PoE is already Pay to win game. But that's normal. If there wasn't payment then there won't be development of the game.
In the game also you Pay to Win - Why? 2-4 Chaos per Labyrinth Carry, up to 10 Chaos orbs for Atziri, Uber-Labs, Uber-Atziri carry. It's normal. Noone won't to go for free and as sooner people realize it, they can see that the game is for first Free to play and to have fun. That doesn't mean you will Win the game - Go to the Shaper, Uber Atziri and so on for free. It is seen that people on Higher Levels - 90 and So for sure paid something about "cosmetic" things. Some people pay to win, because they feel greater when they win in the game over "noobs", other's don't pay, got bored and find their next game. That's how it is and how it will be in virtual world.
Tell me will you go in Lab, Uber Lab and Atziri for free and alone? You won't - I think most of the people are like that. Some aren't of course. am of the most people that don't go alone.
So, take a deep breath, play until you have Fun for Free and move on with your life - real or virtual to another game or not.
This is based on my experience - I don't mind to pay orbs in the game. I play it for fun and I live my own life.

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korneev123123 escreveu:

premium stash = increased currency gain via trading = p2w
p2w is completly fine, GGG needs money, it is OK.
LYING about "never p2w" is NOT OK

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Perq escreveu:

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Devilschoice escreveu:

So much qq´in, instead of just enjoy this nice and free of charge to play game.

spoiled kids all around !

BUT MUH TRADIN STUSH TEBZ!!11 HAO CAN I NOW RAEC TO THE TOP?! GGG GREEDY WORSTEST COMPANI!

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Tejlonpl escreveu:

But I got enraged when I found out only premium stash owners sell items fast , and for e.g.. ME without any premium but with a lot of standard tabs ( 12 ) I am fucked . To sell anything on Poe trade and to be online ( everyone knows most people search only for online offers , even Poe trade has automatically " online only " button pressed ) now I need to use program acquisition , run it and give my password to steam , email address etc. ( R U JOKING ? )
Program looks 100% unsafe and easy to crack . I think this is pay for win coz u win with a lot of money ( U c an buy much better equ = winning in pvp or even killing uber and looting turbo expensive uniques ) . I think with such changes game is becoming pay to win step by step .