[3.16 - RETIRING BUILD] VD Brands: S-Tier Bosser, A-Tier Map! -- MURDERED BY GGG_INTERN SOMEWHERE--

I’ll also test out a lifetap setup. I’ll definitely know it if I run out of life :D

Streamers reading about my martyr of innocence CoC VD ideas and running with them D:

Actually I’m excited to see how this works. I don’t have time to play with PoB and theory craft, so if someone with more POE brains than me is doing the theory crafting it’s very helpful.

https://youtu.be/TNBClW9tG2o

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IceColdPorkSoda escreveu:

I’ll also test out a lifetap setup. I’ll definitely know it if I run out of life :D

Please tell us how it goes ahah

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Diacred escreveu:

So, just bought a life on block shield + ES on block shield, and it helps even more but even with that I sometimes go down to 10-15% ES after the ramp up :p

Edit: happens fairly rarely tho, just did a juicy logbook and as long as I am cycloning in the middle of the mobs my ES doesn't go down. If I run away it eventually goes down to 0 :p

EB (MoM) requires 4(+1) = 5, plus as you discovered, MoM is the optimal Corrupted Soul placement.

In any game it is mostly a bad idea to try and scale anything using reactive mechanics (e.g. block - it is dependent on monsters hitting you.) The average monsters attack speed just don't scale as competitively as player cast/attack speeds. There are janky builds that make enemies attack faster - but why bend over backwards over a simple resource issue?

It could make more sense to just use a Cinderswallow Urn with ES on kill restored for easy mapping. As a matter of fact, ditch the whole EB thing entirely, the opp cost is so high (5 points is HUGE) for minor QoL. You could just Cinderswallow mana and have 5 (+ all the pathing points for another keystone) unlocked.)

I think you may be OOMing only with 4 brands pumping. Can't catch that for sure. On bosses my mana stopped running down to 0.

All right, time to do the math. At least for our current Conc Effect-Horror Helms, it's 60 mana for a VD, and 33 for a Desecrate.

93 * 3.9 = 362.7 mana regen required per second.

Don't forget mana costs from Cyclone and its triggers (WoC / Flammability / Bone Offering.)

So if you hit anywhere near 400 mana per sec, all the mana problems disappear. If you h ave 4 brands out, that doubles to 800 mana per sec, but packs die so fast you get to "full tank" in between each tank, which gives you a buffer to work with.

An enduring Divine Mana Flask restores about 115mp/s.

That brings me from 205 to 320. That's why I've stopped feeling the pinch on bosses. Also, my mana flask has the "of efficiency mod" - dropping all mana costs by 13% during the flask effect, which is pretty huge considering it's up all the time even for mapping.

If you are sorely bugged by mana costs, there are boot enchants that give tons of mana regen on casting a spell.

But none of it really warrants a EB MOM setup.

Final offer: use a Transformer Staff which grants EB to gems socketed inside the staff ONLY. You can put your Desecrate Brand here - voila, that's 40% of your mana expenditure now on EB instead.


(EDIT: With Flask reduction and other reduced cost on tree available I now have 48 + 26 mana cost = 74 * 3.9 = 288.6 mana required per second, per 2 brands. Math checks out!)

Yeah there’s a reason I used devouring diadem for EB instead of pathing to it. Feast of flesh also helps with Es regen so maybe that explains why I don’t run out.

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IceColdPorkSoda escreveu:

Yeah there’s a reason I used devouring diadem for EB instead of pathing to it. Feast of flesh also helps with Es regen so maybe that explains why I don’t run out.

Good call on the staff. I’ve been looking for an elder influenced battery staff for days but they’re all double influenced failed awakener orbs. I was seeking elder influence specifically because you can get the socketed gems are supported by inspiration elder mod.

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IceColdPorkSoda escreveu:

Yeah there’s a reason I used devouring diadem for EB instead of pathing to it. Feast of flesh also helps with Es regen so maybe that explains why I don’t run out.

Ahaha make sure Diacred knows that!!

ACTUALLY with Diadem it could be worth to take Wicked Ward. 10% is a little low but boy it would feel so good when it hits.

How does wicked ward help leech? Are you thinking of something else? In my
Current setup wicked ward wouldn’t help at all.

Hmm, that's some interesting maths, Primaeva, it might not be worth it if I manage to get a hold of those boots enchants and setup my flask with mana reduced (I currently have cast speed xD) + a Cinderswallow.
But I wouldn't be able to make use of the Devouring Diadem, I am using a Scepter and Shield and need at least a 5L for my Cyclone, which I wouldn't have if I had to put my VD Brand on the armor.

I'll look into removing EB tomorrow, but I must say it does feel very comfortable with it atm, I'll have to see how it goes with your suggestions :)
I've played with the PoB all day and managed to double my current damage (both spell and corpse explosions) which feels way better on bosses, even though I am not totally there yet (missing 3 lvls still)

Here would be the PoB without EB: https://pastebin.com/1c6UHeyC, I'll definitely try that tomorrow.
But I feel that it'll be hard to get 100% uptime on cinderswallow with the alternate ailments as we can't ignite.

Also, using diadem and corpse walker kind of sucks because you lose so many rare mods. Definitely going to drop the corpse walker boots. If lifetap supports works well I’ll drop diadem too.