[3.16 - RETIRING BUILD] VD Brands: S-Tier Bosser, A-Tier Map! -- MURDERED BY GGG_INTERN SOMEWHERE--

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IceColdPorkSoda escreveu:

How does wicked ward help leech? Are you thinking of something else? In my
Current setup wicked ward wouldn’t help at all.

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Diacred escreveu:

If we don't use a Uber lab enchant (was looking at it because I hate farming uber lab) on the boots but instead go for the one that gives 14% mana cost reduction instead of 18%, we get (21 * 4.11 + 18 * 3.93) * 2 = 314.1, which means we still don't have enough mana. So it feels like the boots lab enchant will be very important.

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primaeva escreveu:

Fucking amen dude, I've gone entire leagues with unenchanted boots/helm/gloves simply because I hate labrunning. This build sucks at labrunning too (it's in the "Cons" of the build, it's that bad, ahaha.)

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IceColdPorkSoda escreveu:

Primaeva I was checking out your toon and I have a few questions:

1) Do you proc EE in some way? You don't have the keystone or Malachai's artiface and it's such a massive single target DPS boost it seems like a must.

2) Are you not using WoC? I couldn't find it in your gem links

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Diacred escreveu:

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primaeva escreveu:

Fucking amen dude, I've gone entire leagues with unenchanted boots/helm/gloves simply because I hate labrunning. This build sucks at labrunning too (it's in the "Cons" of the build, it's that bad, ahaha.)

Actually just noticed that PoB doesn't include the mana flask in the mana regen total, which means that we get 104 mana regen on top of the 300, which brings us to about 410 mana regen with the enduring mana flask up.
This means that even without the lab enchant it should be enough.

I am checking and:
- Without ANY lab enchant, the cost could be : 28 * 3.95 + 26 * 4.12 = 217.72 with 2 brands out.
With 4 brands out it'd be 435.44 mana per second.
Our regen would be 286.2 mana per second + the enduring 104.8 = 391 mana regen per second, so not enough.
- With a 25% increased mana regen lab enchant (Merciless), the cost would be the same, but the regen would be 317.4 + 104.8 = 422.5.
In this case we could use Inspiration LVL 21 to get: 27 * 3.95 + 26 * 4.12 * 2 = 420 mana per second with 4 brands which would make it work albeit just enough.
- With a 14% reduced mana cost of skill if hit recently on boots (merciless lab too), we go down to: 18 * 3.95 + 21 * 4.12 * 2 = 244.14 with 4 brands out, even without a mana flask our regen is 286.2 mana per second (but we do need the mana flask for the skill cost reduction) which is plenty enough so we could get back 4 points by not using Deep Thoughts nor Arcane Will. We'd still get 305 mana regen with the enduring mana flask which is enough to cover the 244.14 of the brand.

All in all the reduced mana cost of skill is a clear winner as far as boots enchants go

This obviously moves a bit with the amount of cast speed you get on your stuff, I am doing these calculations without a Cast speed Cane of Kulmac in this case, and if you had one it'd bring the mana cost quite higher per second. In this case maybe you'd need the Uber lab boots enchant.
But I think we may have solved the mana problems.

I just ran a Merc lab and got the 25% increased mana regen, ran a map with it and it went fine, there were a few moments where I had 0 mana but they were far fewer (which is consistent with the fact that I have just enough mana regen for the cost and I am cycloning + brand recalling on top).
I think I'll do a few labs to get the reduced mana cost of skill instead, remove Deep Thoughts and Arcane Will and I should be fine. I might keep Arcane Will if I feel the need though but it probably won't be necessary.