[3.21] Cold Conversion Summoner | Build guides for all budgets | (Ghazzy Zoomancer)

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Deadandlivin escreveu:

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skjutengris escreveu:

CANT DO MAVEN ON THIS BUILD, FPS ARE DOGSHIT. 20FPS

and I got a high end PC rig.

simply put GGG killed my game, not fun anymore

What's the problem? The memory game?

FPS

Bricked, elder, cortex L10...and sirus today.
20fps with this piece of shit design as same build previous league, NO issues.
Just await diablo 4 atm actually, poe2 wont save GGG

I been playing since 2012 but now they ruined this gameplay.
Its simply annoying alongside the fps issues.

Have to say my fps has been perfectly fine with a 4 year old computer....

Thanks deadandlivin for all you help!

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skjutengris escreveu:

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Deadandlivin escreveu:

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skjutengris escreveu:

CANT DO MAVEN ON THIS BUILD, FPS ARE DOGSHIT. 20FPS

and I got a high end PC rig.

simply put GGG killed my game, not fun anymore

What's the problem? The memory game?

FPS

Bricked, elder, cortex L10...and sirus today.
20fps with this piece of shit design as same build previous league, NO issues.
Just await diablo 4 atm actually, poe2 wont save GGG

I been playing since 2012 but now they ruined this gameplay.
Its simply annoying alongside the fps issues.

Hmm, have you tried changing renderer ingame?
My PC is from 2011, I have zero issues playing.
Only get framrate issues when I build 30 Seismic Towers in Blight Ravaged maps.

I used to have alot of frame issues a year ago and did alot to try and fix that.
Some things I've done to make the game play much smoother:
- Reinstall the game
- Preload settings to fix FPS issues (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxDTIXzgZCU)
- Remove all sound (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHAem-5JW94)
- Reduce all settings to the lowest(Literally makes no difference).
- Test different renderer (I'm using directx 11. Vulcan and 12 makes the game unplayable for me)
- Strict loot filter and Item filder hider checked if you havne't already.

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Selenity escreveu:

Have to say my fps has been perfectly fine with a 4 year old computer....

Thanks deadandlivin for all you help!

If you got money to spare you could try doing with I'm testing right now.
I'm running x1 Inspired Learning in the socket next to the minion wheel on the left side of the tree.

Since most rare monsters only have 1-2 modifiers It's basically as powerful as a Headhunter. Alot of people are saying that the problem with HH now is that the Archnemesis modifiers suck offensively. As summoners, we don't really care about the offensive buffs from HH apart from auras. What we do like is all the defensive buffs it provided.

Thing is, rare monsters still have auras and in addition to it, their buffs are much better defensively which we like. So HH and Inspired learning were probably a buff for minions ironically.

I'm currently trying it out and it feels great.
It's only 1.5 ex, a socket and 5 skillpoints.

Thanks for the so detailed guide. I have a question about how to improve the defense in this league. How do you survive while farming red maps before you purchase Ashes of the Stars and mageblood?

I am currently in red maps with about 6 million total DPS (in pob) and already feeling the dps is insufficient, especially when combating the imprisoned essence rare monster (with sentinel empowered).
My golems can die in a few seconds (as well as zombies and skeletons) and I have nowhere to hide after that. In all versions of this build, we give the shield to minions but not the player, so I have no block chance. And it is too expensive to invest the evasion for me now. This build also has relative low life regen to counter the DOTs like burning ground. That means I am literally a 4500hp,75 all res punching sandbag to the mobs. In the previous league this is okay, but now the empowered monster is godlike... Any aoe or projectiles from two screens away can simply delete me. So I use the CWDT+ molten shell but it doesn't help too much.

Maybe I should farm yellow maps until I have the AG setup in the hungry loop?

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sykbod escreveu:

Thanks for the so detailed guide. I have a question about how to improve the defense in this league. How do you survive while farming red maps before you purchase Ashes of the Stars and mageblood?

I didn't :D
I had very bad gear, think my character cost ~3 ex in total and I just threw my body into double Altars, Blights and Essences until I could afford the Mageblood. Dps was kinda low too but manageable. It's better now when I've got my defenses but double altar farming is just too rippy. Watched streamers like Grimro lose 6 portals to double altars with their 3 mirror builds. That's when I decided not to upgrade anything until I had Mageblood cause the price of it is rising all the time.

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I am currently in red maps with about 6 million total DPS (in pob) and already feeling the dps is insufficient, especially when combating the imprisoned essence rare monster (with sentinel empowered).
My golems can die in a few seconds (as well as zombies and skeletons) and I have nowhere to hide after that. In all versions of this build, we give the shield to minions but not the player, so I have no block chance. And it is too expensive to invest the evasion for me now. This build also has relative low life regen to counter the DOTs like burning ground. That means I am literally a 4500hp,75 all res punching sandbag to the mobs. In the previous league this is okay, but now the empowered monster is godlike... Any aoe or projectiles from two screens away can simply delete me. So I use the CWDT+ molten shell but it doesn't help too much.

Maybe I should farm yellow maps until I have the AG setup in the hungry loop?

That's about what I had. It was enough but yeah, tanky targets felt pretty slow. Bosses and Essences in particular took dozens of seconds on average.

This is how my gameplay looked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGv5YLexes8&ab_channel=HenrikSwanstr%C3%B6m

My tips are, ONLY use the red stalker sentinel and NEVER deploy it with Essences or near the map boss. Pop it at the start of your map and try to tag as many white mobs as possible. If there's an essence nearby, ignore it and keep depleting the Sentinel. ONce your sentinel is empty, deal with the essences and looting.

Use Abarreths pantheon to deal with the burning ground. Try to buy corrupted jewels on trade to get immunities. To deal with dots, I got Poison immunity from corrupted primordial jewels. I had bleed and corrupted blood remove on my life flask. The Aberrath pantheon reduces duration of ignitesby 60% which makes it less of an issue.

Don't use CWDT molten shell, it's bad. Numlock it.

Considering you're level 87 and it seems like you're dying alot it'sprobablysmart not toplay T16 maps. I wouldn't go down to yellows, but doing T12-T14 should be okay. Just keep making upgrades and it will start to feel better over time. Keep in mind that your gear right now is very poor.

A very cheap and big upgrade you should do is buy 21/0 gems. They literally cost like 5 chaos each and will be a huge upgrade for your minions survivability and dps.

i dont know how to link the pob but when sould we switch from frost scout to monkey setup?

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fafouiiino escreveu:

i dont know how to link the pob but when sould we switch from frost scout to monkey setup?

Are you playing the tank version?

When you got a cheap minion helm, Triad Grips and a Trigger wand.
That's when you want to swap spectres.

yep the tank one and already got all of this was wondering if i was waiting for my AG full before the swap

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fafouiiino escreveu:

yep the tank one and already got all of this was wondering if i was waiting for my AG full before the swap

You can chill on the AG and just swap. But you'll want to make the same changes that I did.

So what I did was run Zombies alone in helm and Spectres in boots.
Links were:

The reason why I had to change up the links was because I had no AG.
So I needed something to debuff with Feeding Frenzy and Elemental Army.
Also, I didn't hav eneough mana to run Hatred, Determination and Skitterbots with Bonechill. So I put all support dps boosters on the Spectres until my Hungry Loop was ready and I could run my AG.