👻3.20👻 Kay's Summoner💥SRS Bomber💀Poison SRS💀Melee SRS🕷️Spiders💀Skeleton Mages

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kayella escreveu:

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hotaru251 escreveu:

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With plenty of new itemisation opportunities, minion builds are now as rewarded for finding good items as other archetypes are. There are several new minion-focused base types that players can find and craft to improve the damage and survivability of their minions.

so tl;dr nerfed minions unless u farm item rolls that are RNG and even with the modifier likely weaker than b4?



They make it sound like minion builds arent rewarded for finding good items...

I guess we still wait until poedb digs up all the mod and weight... but the preview didn't look that good? We can already get 30% ms and 30% inc damage on rings so the only new thing GGG showed was the minion resist implict (and they took it off passive tree!)

I know a lot of people are hoping for +1 gem on minion rings...

Surprised guardian is showing that much difference


Edit: Also not sure how it quoted something else? I quoted your dps comp.

Guardian can get block cap without offering, so can use Flesh offering. He also has 40% ias from ascendancy.

Necro needs Bone offering for block cap. and she only has 10% ias on ascendancy.

Thanks a lot! Looking forward to your starter!

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kayella escreveu:

Guardian can get block cap without offering, so can use Flesh offering. He also has 40% ias from ascendancy.

Necro needs Bone offering for block cap. and she only has 10% ias on ascendancy.

A bit of a blasphemy here, but why not just go for Spell Suppression instead of Block? You get to use better gear, too.

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kayella escreveu:

Guardian can get block cap without offering, so can use Flesh offering. He also has 40% ias from ascendancy.

Necro needs Bone offering for block cap. and she only has 10% ias on ascendancy.

Oh, forgot it was melee, not explodey either.

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Takanohana escreveu:

3.19 here we go :-D

GGG stated that while the entry build is lower in DPS the ceiling you can reach is higher now. And we all know with enough investment, you could make most minion builds work before.

On top of that, the League mechanic itself (Synthesis 2.0) is very interesting.

Conclusion: If you like minions, you will have a blast in 3.19.

CU in Lake of Kalandra!

You will not make em like before. Unless you have spare hundreds of exalts.

Additional minions mods to gear means what it is harder to get minion or defense mods you need, which means your builds will be overall MUCH weaker then before without that hundres of exalts. And MUCH MUCH MORE WEAKER if you are casual or medium range player.

There is almost no changes only for high-end players, like always after GGG changes >_>

Soooo, pure spectres are still an option or not?

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TemusOrigami escreveu:

Soooo, pure spectres are still an option or not?

For sure no, unless there will be new OP spectres or additional +level mods on gear, outside of helmet.

Anything outside of spectres and maybe zombies (srs, both skelle, spiders, golems) will be at least OK.

In fact you only may pray on new OP spectres, but i do not think GGG will add +lvl mods outside of helmet or OP spectres.
Ofc you may try spectres, but in compare to other minions they will be... eh, shit.



Also fun fact, spectres now are almost in that state, what they was when we have only Cold/Fire sentinels to play with or even more ded. What this means? Only what Raise Spectres now only for masochists and players with a lot of currency to spend, not for casual, mid and even high skilled players.

Thoughts on looking at Iron Mass this league for a mid league build with new Alberons?

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Figgleton escreveu:

Thoughts on looking at Iron Mass this league for a mid league build with new Alberons?

In current state both skelle are agressive by default, which means what they says "feck you summoner" and run offsreen to fight mobs.
With this bots they will say "feck mobs" and follow summoner.

Boots only looks good, but in fact they will cut your DPS by at least 1/3, more real what they will break agressive AI and halve+++ your dps. They also will not work with mages as stated in item desc.

Maybe some good interactions will come later, but for now - hell no.