[3.27] The dirty Scorpion-Tail|Herald of Agony| Chaos-Cyclone-Necro|The Arachnophobia Allstars 260M

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AllMud55#1056 escreveu:

I did a short test run on Witch, and it was very rough leveling for me personally. Is there any particular changes I can or should make to struggle a bit less?

I was in act 4 with 4 link HoAG and had tried Sybils and cyclone-cwc. Single target felt like it didn't exist, and tried swapping back to Pconc and was barely any better. I had my first lab done but really didn't help at all.

I considered trying out a different class to start, but I feel like Necro has the highest ceiling for gear and damage later on.

While early levelling with HoA I always pushed a mix of different 4 sources of dps:

1) a mainskill like poisonous concoction with mandatory 80-100% chances to poison (guided in "HoA step by step", easy reached on the tree and with chance to poison-support), poison- / chaos-masteries, much thrown flasks (lmp, volley, attackspeed), of course fitting updated flasks and enough flask-charges which buff the damage too.
Flamewalls are good supporting beside.

Poisonous concoction is nerfed 20%, so other early mainskills are as same strong in 3.27. Mmhmm, sorry, I also still did not decided which early leaguestart-skill looks best for 3.27. A basic overview for alternative skills is listed in the top of the spoiler "beginning and levelling".

Perhaps Cyclone - cwc - absolution - chance to poison, or absolution - faster casting - chance to poison - spell echo are good choices or storm rain - chance to poison can be good chosen instead poisonous concoction.
Or jungroan guides a 3.27 kinetic rain heraldstacker as leaguestarter on YouTube.

2) HoA - there are no keystones and not really damage-related passivetree-notables and no good buffing auras available. A minion-offence-mastery is not optimal effective too to buff HoA-damage.

So the key and the best choice to boost HoA is the continuous generating of full 40 HoA-virulences. They are gained with fast hitting skills/spells and need 80-100% chances to poison.
Against singletargets the HoA-virulences are doubled with jewel the golden rule. Then the levelling-helmet maw of conquest is recommended to counter the suicide-poison-reflections. Maw of conquest requires minimum lvl 48.

Before other skills and minions like absolution, hop, srs, phantasms etc. are faster.

But with the default full 40 virulences or 45 virulences with HoA-gemquality the HoA already hits like a truck when you keep the virulences constantly up.


3) 3-4 sources of burstdamage: plaguebearer to melt bosses, vaal skeletons (or vaal absolution) against bosses, withering step for withers, and curses like despair, sniper's mark, punishment etc.

4) Then from lvl 54 onwards get fast cheap medium clusters pure agony and circle of nostalgia, they are the best damage-buffs at that level.

Then also the transfigured skillgems Ball Lightning of Orbiting, Tornadoes of Elemental Turbulences, linked to chance to poison, already get interesting to replace poisonous concoction. They produce more HoA-virulences. Also poisonous concoction of bouncing, default storm burst and default ball lightning are fast and generate full HoA-virulences.

At that step Ghastly jewels, CIP or Arakaali's fang, Ebers Unification or support-spectrees are high damage also.


So for that gear a few chaos/alchemy-orbs are needed, around 3, and then for the first medium clusters around 3-10 more. In Secrets the currency was easy looted fighting early some Mercs, and I hope in 3.27 there are sources for some early drops again. In example the Genesis Tree will grow currency for us.

Also the new Grafts seem to be designed to accelerate levelling.

Overall there are much faster levelling skills out there which are better buffed early on the tree with keystones and masteries.
So HoA will be probably again not the optimal leaguestart-racer and choosing other skills until 5-10 chaos-orbs are gained is a good choice when you focus on high leaguestart-speed.

Edited: I streamlined the levelling skills in the pob and added for good overview a new pob-loadout "Levelling Lvl 1-80".

Hey there! 😊
I’m thinking of trying out the Necromancer version of this build.

Just wondering, is the PoB for it updated for league 3.27 yet? Would love to jump back in with the latest tweaks if it is.

Thanks again for putting so much work into this awesome build!

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tomsoldier#1171 escreveu:

Hey there! 😊
I’m thinking of trying out the Necromancer version of this build.

Just wondering, is the PoB for it updated for league 3.27 yet? Would love to jump back in with the latest tweaks if it is.

Thanks again for putting so much work into this awesome build!

Yes, all pob's are updated.
Custom mods simulate profane ground and chaotic might of the Lycia-bloodlines.

[3.27] Hybrid Life+Es Total-Tank-Necro, 183M damage, 25k es+life/sec doubled recovery, + flesh and stone, +minion-leech, +ed-charges-uptime, + supreme decadence, +enfeeble, 788k ehp, 37k phys / 175k ele max hit taken, low budget, allrounder, perfect for lvl 100 and juiced t-17, all levelling and all alternative trees: https://pobb.in/3bdCXXcq

Hybrid Life+Es Crit-Poison-HoA-Necro (263M), low budget, allrounder, boss-hunter: https://pobb.in/GPVQc1ci

DD Ultra-Crit-Necro (1300M, 550k ehp), u-high budget, for speedfarming Ubers, but less tankyness and qol: https://pobb.in/3ZbX5FCw

Only the 95% more HoA damage with bloodmagic for 2000M HoA-damage in the Lycia-bloodlines follow later and need before ingame-testing for the later endgame.

All 3.27-news are analyzed on HoA-necro-forum page 122:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3264207/page/122#p26414075



Energy to the pob-community-fork-team!
They ramp the hard work each league! Thank you a lot!

As soon as PoB 3.27 is released, simply export the pob into 3.27, I'll do it of course also.


Thank you Tomsoldier! Arachnophilia!

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ornirus#7483 escreveu:

Thoughts on the new Living Lightning support potentially being used to apply poison for virulence stacking, like Arakaali's Fang?

The HoA-virulences we mandatory need to generate ourself. Our "minions"-tagged stuff cannot generate the HoA-virulences.

But linked to attacking skills and minions the living lights should be able to be supported by withering touch to generate withers.

Hey there mate! Love the guide btw.
Im planning on starting with this as ive had an itch to play Herald of Agony since pre-phrecia even. Planning on going with the necromancer version, i intend to swap to leveliung with herald of agony as soon as possible just because i prefer it that way.
Im aware of pconc and other skills being faster for the campaign but im not too worried. Got about 3k~ hours. If anything i would most likely just poison SRS level it through most of the campaign with herald on and then slowly do the swap when i generate the first 10-15c.

Got any tips for the skills to use in act 1-2 to smooth it out. I did 2 test runs with a mix of poison SRS and rolling magma or freezing pulse but freezing felt absolutely terrible tbh.

Love the guide, build and dedication, cant wait to try it out and minmax it.

// Zhalox

Witch seems best ascendency, but bottom and left half of the tree are close to blood magic. Using Malachi’s helmet for blood magic seems bad. Blood magic on the tree seems the only way it’s worth.

Rf elementalist for 2 stones then transition seems ideal for campaign. Don’t forget you can respec with gold in 3.27 so a day 1-2 swap is far far less punishing.

Swap once you have some cluster jewels and a few other pieces will probably be much smoother