[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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kisiel15 escreveu:

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kisiel15 escreveu:

Fast qestion,
i'm using Drillneck version, and i bought corupted drillneck with +1 arrow, but 10% for pierce from normal drilnneck wont be better? Im angry for myself because i didnt check that before i bought that.

Can tell me anyone?

+1 Arrow is way better.

Pierce gem gives 50%
Scion Deadeye gives 50%
Passives give 50%.
Pick a combination for 100% pierce :) Remember pierce is capped at 100%. There is no difference between having 170% pierce and 100%.

Hey, i am thinking about corrputing my gems if they hit 20/20. Is this recommended for higher lvl or maybe too risky?

I usually corrupt level 20 gems if a) I don't desperately need that level 20 gem for my character b) level 21-23 adds a fair amount of value to the gem. There are gems which profit a lot from an additional level (basically those where base damage increases substantially, like Flame Totem or Discharge) and some which don't (like Weapon Elemental Damage, Added Fire Damage).

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DunklerKoenig escreveu:

Hey, i am thinking about corrputing my gems if they hit 20/20. Is this recommended for higher lvl or maybe too risky?

You should always corrupt a gem unless you do not gain anything from a lvl 21 gem or the increased quality compared to a quality loss. You can lose up to 10% quality and gain only 3%.

So for instance you should not corrupt blood rage since lvl 21 does not matter at all and 3% also does not matter. You should not corrupt herald of ash since lvl 21 does not help you and the 3% quality does not do anything either compared to the risk of losing 10%.

So you should corrupt almost all gems. At least all attack gems / support gems on attacks.

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DunklerKoenig escreveu:

Hey, i am thinking about corrputing my gems if they hit 20/20. Is this recommended for higher lvl or maybe too risky?

allways level your 2 most importent gems (or the most valuable) in multiples in your 2nd weapon slots. for example: currently i level 3x TS and 3x empower in my 2nd weaopnslots. as soons as they hit 20/20, i corrupt them, sell the trash for some chaos and start all over again. once you hit that lvl 4 empower or your 2nd 21/20 TS (because i wanna keep the 1st 21/20 for myself), you start making huge profit for basicly nothing than your playtime you are allready investing. for the exalts you made there you can simply buy a couple of 21/20 // 20/23 gems you need and just level gems you wanna sell or need for twinks

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TheFazzo escreveu:

Hello, thanks for the useful guide!

You said that Deadeye is the standard Ascendancy class for Tornado Shot, but if I use a pierce build with Drillneck how will it stack with Tornado Shot and the +1 chain granted by the Deadeye node Ricochet?
If I understand correctly the projectile should pierce but not chain, or am I missing something?

Would it be better to take Powerful Precision so to get 100% Critical Chance because of the 100% pierce?

I also have a question about Eye of Chayula. Would you run it?

Great qestion, i wanted to ask same, how that +1 chain it's working with TS? And how "Far shot" is working at all? Im not very good in knowles game mechanics.

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kisiel15 escreveu:

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TheFazzo escreveu:

Hello, thanks for the useful guide!

You said that Deadeye is the standard Ascendancy class for Tornado Shot, but if I use a pierce build with Drillneck how will it stack with Tornado Shot and the +1 chain granted by the Deadeye node Ricochet?
If I understand correctly the projectile should pierce but not chain, or am I missing something?

Would it be better to take Powerful Precision so to get 100% Critical Chance because of the 100% pierce?

I also have a question about Eye of Chayula. Would you run it?

Great qestion, i wanted to ask same, how that +1 chain it's working with TS? And how "Far shot" is working at all? Im not very good in knowles game mechanics.

@TheFazzo
If you are using Pierce you can use any Ascendancy. If you go for Deadeye you typically use Endless munitions (+1 arrow, 200 accuracy, AoE size) and any other talent is a solid choice (Powerful Precision or Fast and Deadly or even Sharp and Venomous). Think on what benefits your own character the most. I would typically go for Fast and Deadly but it depends on gem setup / what you are using the character for / etc.

Note on Powerful Precision - If you are utilizing Far Shot (which you should) and TS it basically gives you 0 pierce chance, so you must use the pierce gem + 4 x pierce passives (Do not spend a jewel slot on cruel act 2 pierce jewel reward).

@Kisiel15
+1 Chain on TS chains the projectiles from your TS explosion. It is a fantastic AoE combination.
I could not find the source but Far Shot basically works like an opposite Point Blank. You start gaining damage bonuses if the projectiles travel something like one sixth of your screen length. Could not find the source :( I might remember this wrong. Anyways - it works. It is a great damage booster.

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TheFazzo escreveu:

@Kisiel15
+1 Chain on TS chains the projectiles from your TS explosion. It is a fantastic AoE combination.
I could not find the source but Far Shot basically works like an opposite Point Blank. You start gaining damage bonuses if the projectiles travel something like one sixth of your screen length. Could not find the source :( I might remember this wrong. Anyways - it works. It is a great damage booster.

Some sites ago i asked for the best choice in this ascendancy class, using Drillneck.

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scrooge999 escreveu:

Ricochet won't do anything for you since projectiles that pierce can't chain. The additional crit chance from Powerful Precision or the extra projectile from Endless Munitions on the other hand will be of use to you.

I also use Powerful Precision and i am not Sure if endless Munition wont be the better choice.

What do you guys think about the open prefix? Few messages earlier the solution has been exalt for possible awesomeness. But if I go with the "safe" craft do you think WED or added elemdmg would be better? For LA/BR or TS. The damage calculator wants a google permission and I can't access it.

Edit: Do divine orbs work on crafted stats the same way as other stats?

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DunklerKoenig escreveu:

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TheFazzo escreveu:

@Kisiel15
+1 Chain on TS chains the projectiles from your TS explosion. It is a fantastic AoE combination.
I could not find the source but Far Shot basically works like an opposite Point Blank. You start gaining damage bonuses if the projectiles travel something like one sixth of your screen length. Could not find the source :( I might remember this wrong. Anyways - it works. It is a great damage booster.

Some sites ago i asked for the best choice in this ascendancy class, using Drillneck.

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scrooge999 escreveu:

Ricochet won't do anything for you since projectiles that pierce can't chain. The additional crit chance from Powerful Precision or the extra projectile from Endless Munitions on the other hand will be of use to you.

I also use Powerful Precision and i am not Sure if endless Munition wont be the better choice.

A) I find drillneck underwhelming in a standard TS setup. It has its uses if utilized by a specific build - for instance lmp puncture with +1 additional arrow and endless munitions. So in a specific context it is great but for a standard bow setup I do not find it optimal.

B) Endless munitions is your 4 pointer. The must have (if you go for drillneck). Then you choose between the other 2 pointers in which Powerful precision is an option - however I cannot state this clearly enough: If you use drillneck pierce setup Endless Munitions is a must have.

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rikkemon escreveu:

Spoiler

What do you guys think about the open prefix? Few messages earlier the solution has been exalt for possible awesomeness. But if I go with the "safe" craft do you think WED or added elemdmg would be better? For LA/BR or TS. The damage calculator wants a google permission and I can't access it.

Edit: Do divine orbs work on crafted stats the same way as other stats?

I cannot see the bow from the picture since it is bugged, but I inspected your Raider. If it is the Harbinger you are using with your Raider I would give it a Yolo exalt (make sure it can only roll a prefix). If things go well - great! If you get a bad prefix - well... It did not get any worse. Not much to lose but a lot to gain!

I a bow much like yours. Now I have :D