[3.7] 1H-Impale Cyclone Champion/Slayer - 16M+ Shaper DPS Fullbuffed / 158%-220% Movspeed Speedy Boy

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Szynima escreveu:

Little update here
Skilltree:
-Charging Offensive is has been replaced by Brutal Blade on the Skilltree
-Life and Mana Leech node taken out for some more Attackspeed + Critchance

Gems:
-Increased Duration on Immortal Call + Vulnerabilitysetup removed, replaced with Summon Lightning Golem
-Summon Lightning Golem moved away, so we support Leap Slam with Endurance Charge on Stun and Fortify now for extra defense

Champion/Slayer:
Slayer has officially beaten Champion DPS wise even without the 20% cull. This mainly happens due to the fact that I built in 2 rings now that reduce the total cost of all skills to 0, so we can fit another aura in. On mobs Champion is still stronger and also defensively ahead, 12% movementspeed increase is also quite nice, but Slayer beats it currently with increased AOE, overleech and generally higher Boss-DPS.

It's still up to you what you take, Champion is a bit tankier with 6% less damage on Bosses, while Slayer has more DPS there and is better at clearing Maps fast.

I never thought the DPS would actually feel this good, so we might overkill it with Champion in Maps and are better of increasing the overall AOE to run through the maps faster. But that's up to everyone else.

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DoomHammer_Zozobra escreveu:

So is champion still going to be as crazy with DPS as was posted in the title? 13M+ is A L O T, i already went Champion and am now sort of doubting myself.

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chinpokemon2905 escreveu:

awesome :) decides it going 1h slayer. Just your usual suspects for leveling weapons? 1h phys swords (Redbeak, upgraded redbeak, prismatic scaeva)?

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Rottenbeer escreveu:

Would you now recommend to go slayer or to go champion?
I just started maps and never played slayer or champion, so a decision out of preference is not really valid :D.

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Szynima escreveu:

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DoomHammer_Zozobra escreveu:

So is champion still going to be as crazy with DPS as was posted in the title? 13M+ is A L O T, i already went Champion and am now sort of doubting myself.

Champ went up to 14mil, Slayer almost at 16mil now

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chinpokemon2905 escreveu:

awesome :) decides it going 1h slayer. Just your usual suspects for leveling weapons? 1h phys swords (Redbeak, upgraded redbeak, prismatic scaeva)?

yea exactly, just phys stacking :D

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Rottenbeer escreveu:

Would you now recommend to go slayer or to go champion?
I just started maps and never played slayer or champion, so a decision out of preference is not really valid :D.

Slayer is more forgiving if you don't pay as much attention, since he can leech against hits easier. Also has more range due to higher aoe, so you don't have to be too close into things.

Champs is generally for the more experienced who spam bosses.

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erokezz escreveu:

pls do not throw away champion build. PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS

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chinpokemon2905 escreveu:

Everything but the ascendancy is the same for Slayer though right?

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1Marko1 escreveu:

Damn, feelsbadman already got lvl 68 Champ, feels shit that now Slayer is the better option, what a pepega.

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Can someone please in detail explain to me how we're supposed to go so fast while channeling Cyclone? I have 30% Movespeed boots, I have Quicksilver Flask/Silver Flask which I have up all the time.. Yet it's so slow, honestly makes me not want to play the build at all.


I'm tired of getting this generic answer of "Oh well it has to do with your movement speed, also use Leap to jump from pack to pack if they're semi-close..." OBVIOUSLY.. That doesn't change how fast my Cyclone moves when I'm channeling it.

As it stands right now with my boots, my flasks up Cyclone is like slower normal running speed without movement speed boots on, which feels terrible and slow.