streamer rng or just always unlucky?

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DarkJen escreveu:

Daym exalt slamming is so pain.
How dare they saying this is so exciting?
It bricked so many items.

Sometimes feels like exalt is the worst version if vaal orb.

100%

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Phrazz escreveu:

Holy shit, people are actually serious? I'll let myself out.

Sad but true Phrazz.

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DoubleU escreveu:

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Phrazz escreveu:

Holy shit, people are actually serious? I'll let myself out.

Sad but true Phrazz.

In Ultimatumu league, GGG shut down the queue for streamers. It is a fact!
Chris admitted it!
So now you just see the proof of buffing exist! And so, we have more reasons (no proof) to believe in buff for streamers. And I am not conspiracy theories beliver.
We have proof, we have reasons, so we can suspect, you have only words...
Sad but true DoubleU.

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Time for your proof.

A priority queue is not proof that they buff streamer drops.
Yes, they can manually adjust drops, but if you think that this game does it then surely you must think that most other games do it.

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Willm4ster escreveu:

And so, we have more reasons (no proof)

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Willm4ster escreveu:

Time for your proof.

Eeeh, no. This thread claims that streamer RNG exists. This thread should prove that, without making stupid claims based on personal bias and lack of statistical awarenes.

We all know about the stream priority que. It's no secret. And no matter how unprofessional and stupid that was from GGG, it does not - in any way, shape or form prove "streamer RNG".

But this is like talking to a flat-earther. No proof, no common sense and no argument are going to change a flat-earther's mind.

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Phrazz escreveu:

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Willm4ster escreveu:

And so, we have more reasons (no proof)

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Willm4ster escreveu:

Time for your proof.

Eeeh, no. This thread claims that streamer RNG exists. This thread should prove that, without making stupid claims based on personal bias and lack of statistical awarenes.

We all know about the stream priority que. It's no secret. And no matter how unprofessional and stupid that was from GGG, it does not - in any way, shape or form prove "streamer RNG".

But this is like talking to a flat-earther. No proof, no common sense and no argument are going to change a flat-earther's mind.

It's probably somewhere in-between.

The mere existence of the streamer priority server, leaves open to interpretation what else besides access could GGG be providing, with or without the streamers knowledge.

From a marketing standpoint, having increased drop rates, crafting rng, etc.. shows PoE in better light, while also being difficult to really accuse them of anything.

Given GGG's track record, for me personally, why should they get the benefit of the doubt, or some sort or beyond reproach treatment? Nah I'm good here.

This isnt tin-foil hat territory, given the character seed "bug" in Delve, reluctantance to divulge loot box rates until forced to by law, and then a separate sever for apparently friends and family as part of a marketing strategy (which was an epic fail btw)

So while I cant be sure(or anyone for that matter), I 100% support anybody that is giving GGG the side-eye.

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Phrazz escreveu:

We all know about the stream priority que. It's no secret. And no matter how unprofessional and stupid that was from GGG, it does not - in any way, shape or form prove "streamer RNG".

Than you can understand why I can belive there something strange about some streamers high rng. And to start thinking that, I must have some reasons, reference point, experience, and have play this game some longer time. Have no meet any player in game with that lucky rng, and you can see my own rng with 2 sample, and my other experiences they are not much better. Meaby I wrong but with own experience I had see rng is not that generous for perfect item with exalt slam.
Note that many people had a similar impression, so for me personally, there is something.

Streamers did not know about que priority, so they probably don't know about buff (if rl exist). I cannot see in my post some like "they 100%/for sure have buff for rng", irony about lucky rng - yes. Buffing streamers its good for GGG, not for streamers, especially they add streamers live stream for own main page. If buff exist Chris will not admit, and because rng exist in game, this cannot be proved. New player can have drop mirror, but eg. "drop mirror, after mirror, after mirror, after mirror" look strange and unnatural for rng, but hey, this proof nothing, because this still can by rng. Its perfect excuse, I can't argue with it.

Who will enjoy shity game, who enjoy when see que, kick, que? No one. "Unprofessional", this your deceitful authority said? I hate intellectual dishonesty. It wasn't unprofessional, it was unfair. GGG do not remove priority que because they pay "funy money" for streaming time, this cannot by reason with the income they have. They do it because of shame how game look's like for stream viewers. Probaly if not technical problems, I could not be convinced of their dishonesty.

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DarthSki44 escreveu:

It's probably somewhere in-between.

It would be freakin' suicide for them (GGG) to have streamer RNG, if it somehow got out there. It's not worth the trouble, nor the gain. It would only take one anonymous employee with some sense of morals.

I believe more in bias, than I do in streamer RNG, because confirmation bias is, unlike streamer RNG, a proven fact - that happens - all the time - everywhere. People don't like to think about streamers playing five times as much as them. People don't like to think about some streamers playing five times as efficient as them. People don't like to think about streamers are rolling five times as many dices as them.

They see a streamer getting lucky a few times, often in compilations, and their mind automatically goes "this doesn't happen to me that often, but it happens to streamers all the time". Maybe not you, maybe not Jimmy, but you know as well as me that a lot of the suspicion comes from examples like that.

Suspicions? You're allowed. Hell, you're allowed to think that the earth is flat too. But to be sure/convinced that the earth is flat - without proof, just because you don't trust the people saying it's round, even though they've done some bad shit? Nah, man.

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Phrazz escreveu:

It would be freakin' suicide for them (GGG) to have streamer RNG, if it somehow got out there. It's not worth the trouble, nor the gain. It would only take one anonymous employee with some sense of morals.

But made suicide with que alowe, its worth for sure...
THEY MADE IT! And you talking about what its worth for them?!
Devil's advocate... Tap on your head...

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Phrazz escreveu:

Suspicions? You're allowed. Hell, you're allowed to think that the earth is flat too. But to be sure/convinced that the earth is flat - without proof, just because you don't trust the people saying it's round, even though they've done some bad shit? Nah, man.

Nah, man. Both have no proof. So why those from the round earth will not trust the one who claims to be flat? Trust its not good argument especially they have done some bad shit, when first don't. Correct your speech because it makes no sense, and it harms those you defend.
Rationalism - is the key.

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DarkJen escreveu:

I stopped to watch streamers exactly for theese reasons. They play completely different poe. PR version. For better adverticement. Its their job, afterall.

Not interested to watch ads nonstop.

Well, it's their full time job and they play non-stop just about.
I am willing to bet 99.9% of the "Streams" you are watching that get good drops are more or less "highlights" of that stream. I mean, even those get views and ad rev so...

But ya, a gold miner who only mines 3 hours is less likely to hit pay dirt than those who live at the mine and go at it 6-9 hours a day...

Occam's Razor my friend.