[2.4] How to smash Heads. Extremely detailed guide about the Facebreaker gloves and builds!

First off, thanks for the guide!
I have tried it out on DOM and I like the result!

I use infernal blow with the following gear



I am at level 69 right now, so have not had the chance to equip my lioneyes remorse yet, but still have no problem in getting by at 69+ maps. I have not yet had the chance to play higher maps.

I have a question tho, with the gear I linked and all the block nodes taken as you described in the passive tree, the block should be 85%. Block is capped at 75% so it seems to me that the block nodes taken at the "Bulwark" node and the single block node taken to the left of duelist start is not needed? If this is the case you could save five passives that you can spend on further survivability such as life or resistances (or what ever you need).
Am I right or wrong? Is there something I do not understand?

Thanks again for a great build!
Regards
//disco
IGN: discoCowboy
Última edição por discoCowboy em 6 de dez de 2013 05:25:08
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lamwire escreveu:
I tested with Dominating blow and this is my conclusion: a waste of time...IB is the way to go!
Here are my reasons:
1. If you're strong enough, then you wont need to rely on your minions.
2. If you're weak, then you wont kill fast enough to dominate your minions for the time it lasts.
3. You can't use culling strike cuz it affects your minions also...
4. Minions are only good for the current level.
5. FPS says hello!
6. Big mana issues like KorgothBG mentionned.

In conclusion, there's no point to use DB, except if you like to break record on the max minions you can have!


I can't agree with you, my 15k dominating blow when i play solo or with single mfer is simply amazing.

1. You don't have to, but they are great help.
2. Minions dominated by my q0 18lvl DB lasts for 31sec, with melee splash you dominate whole packs, it's long enough.
3.You don't have to deal killing blow, so mfer can culling strike it, also with IB explosion some mobs won't be culled simply because of insta-kill.
4. My minions have all my support skills and auras. Have you seen rolling golem with mulistrike and faster attacks? It's simply amazing. Sometimes my ~30monster packs with rares and their auras(4k energy shield from single aura is funny) kill boss before i blink on 70lvl maps.
5. It might be issue but not for me
6. You have to use blood magic, it's true. But with "pure" phys dmg you also gain ~50% more life leech!

DM is bad skill for groups, but when you playing single, those mobs are amazing shield (usually i just check my loot in middle of fight, they can clear map with ease) and nice amount of dps. I have ~15k with DB and ~18k with IB and for me DB is simply superior.
IGN: DeepStrike
@discoCowboy

If you are looking at "my current skill tree" you should know that i'm using Abyssus and a 6L chest ( as seen in the "my gear" ) To see the skill tree for BoR users just check out the passive skill tree per 10 skill points in the skill tree section :)
"I'm going to show you pain you never knew existed, you're going to see a whole new spectrum of pain!!!!! Like a RAINBOW!"
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KorgothBG escreveu:
@discoCowboy

If you are looking at "my current skill tree" you should know that i'm using Abyssus and a 6L chest ( as seen in the "my gear" ) To see the skill tree for BoR users just check out the passive skill tree per 10 skill points in the skill tree section :)


Thanks for quick reply! On the phone right now, will check when I get to my computer!
IGN: discoCowboy
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Locien0 escreveu:
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lamwire escreveu:
I tested with Dominating blow and this is my conclusion: a waste of time...IB is the way to go!
Here are my reasons:
1. If you're strong enough, then you wont need to rely on your minions.
2. If you're weak, then you wont kill fast enough to dominate your minions for the time it lasts.
3. You can't use culling strike cuz it affects your minions also...
4. Minions are only good for the current level.
5. FPS says hello!
6. Big mana issues like KorgothBG mentionned.

In conclusion, there's no point to use DB, except if you like to break record on the max minions you can have!


I can't agree with you, my 15k dominating blow when i play solo or with single mfer is simply amazing.

1. You don't have to, but they are great help.
2. Minions dominated by my q0 18lvl DB lasts for 31sec, with melee splash you dominate whole packs, it's long enough.
3.You don't have to deal killing blow, so mfer can culling strike it, also with IB explosion some mobs won't be culled simply because of insta-kill.
4. My minions have all my support skills and auras. Have you seen rolling golem with mulistrike and faster attacks? It's simply amazing. Sometimes my ~30monster packs with rares and their auras(4k energy shield from single aura is funny) kill boss before i blink on 70lvl maps.
5. It might be issue but not for me
6. You have to use blood magic, it's true. But with "pure" phys dmg you also gain ~50% more life leech!

DM is bad skill for groups, but when you playing single, those mobs are amazing shield (usually i just check my loot in middle of fight, they can clear map with ease) and nice amount of dps. I have ~15k with DB and ~18k with IB and for me DB is simply superior.


I didn't say DB is a bad skill, what I meant was that it doesn't benifit you much. I remembered once I reached around 35 minions, but they were "useless", cuz I could kill all the mobs by myself easily. Summoners rely on their minions cuz they are too weak or "lazy" to do the job. If it takes you 2 sec to kill a group, then you minions will barely touch them. If you take 10 sec to do it, then you might not get the last kill cuz your minions will kill them before you do. So you wont gather enough of them, even for 30 secs duration, it's all related. IF DB has no time limit, that would be awesome.

Remember you can also use the increased duration gem. At lvl 17 it adds 80% to the duration.
Each point of quality adds 1% to the duration. Nice gem for db.
Última edição por kompaniet em 6 de dez de 2013 11:09:14
Yea but increased duration will hurt the DB damage and the minion damage aswell. Actualy i've never thought of the minions from DB as a main damage source. They are infact a supporting force(if they have auras) and a meatshield. That's all. It's still you who will deal the most part of the damage. So basicly the good thing about the DB is that it is more safe to use simply because the minions will take 90% of the damage coming at you And that's why you should not care about the duration of the minions.. you'll constantly dominate new enemies and you should not care what happens to them The bad thing is that the damage is lower( compared to IB not that it's low in general) and the mana cost is very high ( so you can't use mana with it you need Blood Magic gem.. actuly that's what makes the damage significanlty lower )


tl;dr
To understand the idea behind the DB (atleast in this build) you should really think for the minions as a supporting force and not something that will kill your enemies for you. You are not a summoner! You are a melee fighter with an angry mob which takes damage instead of you!
"I'm going to show you pain you never knew existed, you're going to see a whole new spectrum of pain!!!!! Like a RAINBOW!"
Última edição por KorgothBG em 6 de dez de 2013 11:48:59
Can you look at my gear/build and give me some advice? I know I need a better shield. Saving for that.

I am not sure where to go next on the skill tree.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAAdwCcQSzBS0M9xLhFE0ZLhoyG_odFCSqJd8n7SjFMZ41kjbpOuE8LUCgQYdHfkrITDVN4099UWBXDVnzXhNgS2EhZU1mnm5pbqpwfXKpdO14DXrvfNmAVoM4hNmE74jxkFWRzpkrnrmgtKIApBmmV6luqZWrxaxZrKqsr69stfK3Prndu-29gb6KvqfAD8Aaw4bE9sWKxq7QR9E20k3Uj9lh4urjaudj55Hp1e8O73zwH_Iv8kXzvvno-tL7qv4K_o8=

Also, how do you run Dual Aura's? I don't have enough mana to support two aura's. Am I missing something?

Here is my current gear.




Thanks for your help.


@CHUNNK

Well about the auras.. i've specificly said that i use ONLY hatred! Two auras are possible if you link them both to reduced mana ( you havn't linked hatred in your case) but you won't have enough mana to cast so you'll need to use Blood magic gem. My advice? You already have enough life/block/armour.. not using determination is not a big deal. Go for Hatred only. You could add Tempest Shield if you want and save 2 skill points from block passives ( use tempest shield if you can still cast IB with no problems)

About the gear.. the Hate Finger Gold RIng is.... well the word that describes it bets is.. terrible I know i know that it has life/mana leech... but pretty much thats all.. change it as soon as possible.

The amulet is not good at all too. It has good dex .. but the physical damage is very very low, it has no life and resists... so yea.. buy a new one ( when you can ofc)

And about the passive tree... well.. just look the passive skill tree section... there you can find a 103 skill points skill tree ( you have 97 now ) so just ... use it :)

I hope that i was able to help you. Good Luck!
"I'm going to show you pain you never knew existed, you're going to see a whole new spectrum of pain!!!!! Like a RAINBOW!"
Última edição por KorgothBG em 6 de dez de 2013 14:25:12
Korgoth,

First, Thank you for the advice. Secondly, I forgot to thank you for the write up. It has been very helpful to say the least. Many Thanks!

I will work on the upgrades you mentioned...

Problem is, that's the only ring I have with life leach and mana leach..I have mana problems. I will look for better.

Should I be focusing on resist points in the skill tree now or continue trying to build life/defense?

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