Why Poe is becoming PAY TO WIN GAME - free discusion

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mustash escreveu:

So, all 35 pages of this thread are people arguing that a QoL mtx is paying to win and the other hand are saying that it isn't?

There is also people like you who think they are above it, yet repeat the same thing aswell.

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Bone2flesh escreveu:

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Ora9 escreveu:

I agree. Let us buy stash tabs with in-game currency.

NO.

Why? Because the money from buying stash tabs along all the MTX keeps the game alive and brings new content regularly unlike most games today.

How about we let people buy stash tabs (or any othet MTX) for real money, and then sell them to other players for in-game currency? Like PLEX in EVE Online. Or like WoW Tokens would be, if they didn't have the dubious middle-man system.

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MrJimo escreveu:

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rhah escreveu:

"Winning" in this game is: leveling, acquiring wealth, gearing, overcoming challenges.

Purchasable stash tabs can help you will that. They will give you an advantage if you make full use of them. That meets the definition of pay to win.

you can have this for free(Acquisition) , ya know ?

Thing is more you list more you sell..its a numbers games like anything else... girls you ask out...job interviews..etc.. more tabs you have more you can list. More you sell. It's P2W. 4 tabs is only good for SSF and even then it's not good enough with all the new shit added since 1.0. (jewels, card, etc)

Trade-2-Win YES

Pay-2-Win NO

Extra tabs offer a MASSIVE advantage over not having extra tabs. Interpret that how you will.

Personally, I wouldn't say it's "pay to win" but I would say that the game is more or less unplayable at all without tabs. That's not quite the same thing, though.

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poepoe091 escreveu:

Extra tabs offer a MASSIVE advantage over not having extra tabs. Interpret that how you will.

Personally, I wouldn't say it's "pay to win" but I would say that the game is more or less unplayable at all without tabs. That's not quite the same thing, though.

So, P2P, then? Kappa

I don't know but I won the game without buying a single microtransaction, soooooo. Why does this discussion exist again?

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poepoe091 escreveu:

Extra tabs offer a MASSIVE advantage over not having extra tabs. Interpret that how you will.

Personally, I wouldn't say it's "pay to win" but I would say that the game is more or less unplayable at all without tabs. That's not quite the same thing, though.

thats why i say this, just above your last post:-

Trade-2-Win YES

Pay-2-Win NO



Pay-2-Win refers to :-

spending real $ that affects the grind (game boosting)
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spending real $ that help to boost damage/movement/invicibility etc.

for POE, why not?, is this:-
-RNG
-Time spent
-certain experiance

As for the TABS? its almost non-existance.
Anyone can create multiple accounts.

I feel as though the topic is too linear here. It's not a case of pay to win or not pay to win. It's pay to have a slight convenient advantage that saves you time and helps keep the game running.

Yes we have mtx and whales, and sure, they help a lot. But as has been previously mentioned, stash tab sales are the bread and butter that lets GGG feed their families each month.

Also maybe a little off point, but $5 of premium stash upgrades is enough to start trading, and even a kid can scrape that much together as pocket change, I honestly dont get what the issue is. Sure the currency and quad tabs are more expensive but they are just luxuries in the end, non premium tabs which gate your trade potential are the only real kicker here. (And even then a currency tab is just pocket change too.)

biggest problem is important MTX stash tab arent regional priced.

It could cost as little a drink in advance countries, but it can be entire different thing on another country.

IMO they should at least do regional pricing on stash tabs. Any of them.