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http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/721029/page/1 This is the copy of it on the Witch thread, has all the Scion tree builds as well.	Postado por Mackon em 7 de fev de 2014 23:36:29 Citar este Post
good riddance	Postado por Hectrix em 8 de fev de 2014 07:14:58 Citar este Post
Saved a copy of his witch thread here: http://web.archive.org/web/20140208160040/http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/721029/page/1 In case sam decides to delete that aswell.	Postado por CptQaoz em 8 de fev de 2014 11:06:31 Citar este Post
I finally have been playing long enough that I can generate my own passives for my summoner without his updates. That being said he was a major inspiration for playing since I love summoners. I am kind of disappointed that if what people are saying is true that he obviously decided to name and shame on the forums which he knew fully well would be removed being a player as long as he has been and then removes his guide for them doing their job. I can understand a bit of his rage though that he was the only serious summoner I saw streaming until the update and now after the update almost everybody streaming had a carbon copy of his character without a single credit given to him when it should have been rightfully given if they were just following his build. "It's all clearer now And I hear her now And I'm nearer to The Salvation Code"	Postado por PleiadesBlackstar em 8 de fev de 2014 18:07:25 Citar este Post
I used to mod this guy's channel. If anyone needs help recounting the guide, I both run the build and would be glad to help anyone with partially built characters. Before it gets brought up: I neither condone nor condemn sam for his actions. I will remain neutral here.	Postado por Ghash1 em 9 de fev de 2014 11:10:12 Citar este Post
Thanks Ghash. Very cool of you! Sam: I've been fan since I found your guide and channel. I think you're overreacting a bit, and hope you put your excellent and comprehensive guides back up. Taking down this one and now the one on the witch forum too punishes your fans and supporters - your Bros! That's kinda uncool, man. But to be honest, I didn't happen to see what made you angry enough to take them down. Hope to see you in the next league. Until then, thanks for the guides while they were up. I'll play you off with Black Cat John Brown and wish you all good things. Take care, Bro.	Postado por Hatchett222 em 9 de fev de 2014 13:14:13 Citar este Post
Pooooh. Good i saved the guide here (used it for the first time and didnt know itll work, but it DOES!): http://web.archive.org/web/20140208160040/http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/721029/page/1	Postado por CptQaoz em 9 de fev de 2014 17:25:06 Citar este Post
This is sad, the best summoner guide is gone. He didn't create "the summoner built" since there is no difficulty in just putting some zombies and specters and call that a summoning build. But he clearly was the first to post the most efficient summoner built out there and show it to his viewers, instead of just "exploiting" an op build. He deserves credit for that. Culler-support build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617230 Dedicated support build https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702757	Postado por dulahan200 em 9 de fev de 2014 17:39:52 Citar este Post
" dulahan200 escreveu: This is sad, the best summoner guide is gone. He didn't create "the summoner built" since there is no difficulty in just putting some zombies and specters and call that a summoning build. But he clearly was the first to post the most efficient summoner built out there and show it to his viewers, instead of just "exploiting" an op build. He deserves credit for that. True. He certainly didn't invent the summoner (nor snapshotting, nor BM spectres), but he did popularize and optimize the build. In fact, all of his builds were fairly clever, even the ones that didn't work out so well (triple storm call totem). All the hate toward him in the past weeks has been focused on counterattacking his claims that he invented the modern day summoner. Literally, that's not true, but he's had around 200 viewers on his stream, hundreds of replies and thousands of views on this very thread. Although he could be harsh, his guides were informative and he did interact with people on stream or in this thread that had serious questions about the build. If you ask me, he mind as well have invented the build; it would still be in the dark to this day, with just a handful of players keeping it to themselves. His contribution certainly counts for something and despite his attitude, deserves more than this mindless flaming.	Postado por nv314961 em 10 de fev de 2014 09:39:20 Citar este Post
" nv314961 escreveu: " dulahan200 escreveu: This is sad, the best summoner guide is gone. He didn't create "the summoner built" since there is no difficulty in just putting some zombies and specters and call that a summoning build. But he clearly was the first to post the most efficient summoner built out there and show it to his viewers, instead of just "exploiting" an op build. He deserves credit for that. True. He certainly didn't invent the summoner (nor snapshotting, nor BM spectres), but he did popularize and optimize the build. In fact, all of his builds were fairly clever, even the ones that didn't work out so well (triple storm call totem). All the hate toward him in the past weeks has been focused on counterattacking his claims that he invented the modern day summoner. Literally, that's not true, but he's had around 200 viewers on his stream, hundreds of replies and thousands of views on this very thread. Although he could be harsh, his guides were informative and he did interact with people on stream or in this thread that had serious questions about the build. If you ask me, he mind as well have invented the build; it would still be in the dark to this day, with just a handful of players keeping it to themselves. His contribution certainly counts for something and despite his attitude, deserves more than this mindless flaming. That is nonsense. Making something popular is not the same as inventing it. Also your assumption that if he had not made it popular no one else would have cannot be validated and is therefore worthless. I know no details of this drama and frankly also am not interested in any but since it all seems to be about giving proper credit I have to wonder how someone on the one hand can demand credit while on the other does not give any credit to others that originally came up with ideas used. Also it makes you wonder when the OP says he started all this drama because he only wants to look out for summoner players ripped off by other streamers soliciting donation and then screws over the same summoner players by deleting the guide. Sound to me someone has to grow up a little.	Postado por Ezekeel em 10 de fev de 2014 20:51:49 Citar este Post