[0.10.4b] Bow Marauder (The Shocker (tm)) [**TO BE UPDATED SOON 1.0.0**]

read the post m8...he uses blood magic gem, so he dont spend mana for spells...mana is there only so he can use 6 auras and have full health...

btw, Venator...can u link your gear in OP also, so we dont have to search it trough the posts?

tnx

Sorry, my mistake, other questions still stand though.

:)

What would be the best potions for this build? for a hc character if that matters.

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NastyNati escreveu:

What would be the best potions for this build? for a hc character if that matters.

I use a similar build to this, and my potions are:

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Slamdancer escreveu:

Venator, may i ask, whats your HP? How often can you fire LA till your out of mana? Since i understood, you are using 6 Auras on your mana now? And no more bloodmagic..

I don't see this viable in HC, the 2nd version (your preferred one) is more of a Default Version eh :p

My HP can be found 3 posts above yours, explanation of BM 4 posts above yours.

This is viable in HC, the 2nd version as well, you just have to switch up nodes a bit (that's an example) and gear up differently. Pointers for this are already in the OP.

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NastyNati escreveu:

What would be the best potions for this build? for a hc character if that matters.

Page 70, third post from bottom up. I will add potion information in the OP, thanks for reminding me.

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Jebenafaca escreveu:

btw, Venator...can u link your gear in OP also, so we dont have to search it trough the posts?

I would rather not, since gear changes a lot, it would need to be updated a lot. I might post my gear a little later when I have really good gear worth showing, which won't get replaced in a short time frame. For now the itemization section is enough IMO.

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Jebenafaca escreveu:

read the post m8...he uses blood magic gem, so he dont spend mana for spells...mana is there only so he can use 6 auras and have full health...

btw, Venator...can u link your gear in OP also, so we dont have to search it trough the posts?

tnx

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The main skill this build revolves around is Lightning Arrow.

4L - LA+LMP+WED+LoH
5L - LA+LMP+WED+LoH+Chain
6L - LA+LMP+WED+LoH+Chain+FAttacks

That's in his OP, I don't see anywhere where he uses a BM gem, can you clarify where he uses a BM gem with LA? I don't see any room available for a BM gem with that setup

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VenatorPoE escreveu:

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Slamdancer escreveu:

Venator, may i ask, whats your HP? How often can you fire LA till your out of mana? Since i understood, you are using 6 Auras on your mana now? And no more bloodmagic..

I don't see this viable in HC, the 2nd version (your preferred one) is more of a Default Version eh :p

My HP can be found 3 posts above yours, explanation of BM 4 posts above yours.

This is viable in HC, the 2nd version as well, you just have to switch up nodes a bit (that's an example) and gear up differently. Pointers for this are already in the OP.

Sorry, i read that post 3 times and your HP isnt there or i am blind.

I played that same version with 6 Auras plus Inner Force plus BloodMagicGems on all my skills with my first Bow Marauder after OB started. I switched to BM Keystone later since i just didnt feel that a 5L for LA can manage with only 3 Support Gems + BM + LA. It just doesnt scale that well. Of course, you then have the Auras, but i, personally, did NOT see the benefit in armor (which is largely useless against big hits), Haste (nice to have..) and Purity (the obvious winner) over the last support gem you are missing.

But its good that we can talk about it and share our experiences here :)

Thanks.

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Slamdancer escreveu:

Sorry, i read that post 3 times and your HP isnt there or i am blind.

I played that same version with 6 Auras plus Inner Force plus BloodMagicGems on all my skills with my first Bow Marauder after OB started. I switched to BM Keystone later since i just didnt feel that a 5L for LA can manage with only 3 Support Gems + BM + LA. It just doesnt scale that well. Of course, you then have the Auras, but i, personally, did NOT see the benefit in armor (which is largely useless against big hits), Haste (nice to have..) and Purity (the obvious winner) over the last support gem you are missing.

Third line of the second paragraph.

The 5L for LA "can" manage, but of course a 6L would work much better, being able to fit Chain in as well. There is no room for mana management in this build, so using all the skills on HP is pretty much mandatory. If you would go for mana, you still have to use mana leech support gem, so it boils down to the same thing.

You seem to get stuck on Determination pretty hard, while I do say Vitality is the alternative. People underestimate armour, everyone is talking about those "big hits", and people forget 90% of the hits are the small hits from random mobs, which certainly add up. Being able to ignore the normal mobs a bit is rather helpful. You do not get hit by "big hits" anyway, it's not like anyone even tries facetanking bosses.

In the end it is simply the choice of % auras or Chain. (Unless you have a 6L, in which case % auras have a monstrous advantage.)

VenatorPoE

u are comfusing everyone with your new endgame build.
you unspec'd from all the mace dmg nodes, and even from the 2 diamond skin nodes (+15% ele resist each).

maybe start a new thread about your new build and call it something else? like aura master?

Now i saw it :)

Thanks for pointing that out for me again. 2100 HP in HC is just not gonna happen in Merciless.

I am pretty sure you know how to play your class and your build.

I also think that Vitality is a nice, but with your HP pool, very overrated aura. I myself oneshot little mobs that do small damage (mitigated by armour in your example). Everything that can kill me is INSANE Burst which sincerely, Armor cant mitigate at all, neither can life regen. Only HP can.

I did the experiment and ran both sides of the build (Bloodmagic Gems + 6 Auras VS. Bloodmagic Keystone + 3 Auras) and have to say the latter performs worlds better, just because the auras you can add, except for Purity, have very small upsides to sacrificing a Gemslot in every socket and my main attack for it. The only DOWNSIDE for me by taking BM Keystone is the unavailability of % auras, i didnt see any others.

For me, personally, i will probably never switch back to BM Gems on all slots+6 Auras again.

I'm not here to argue with you, i just think the upsides of BM Keystone outweigh the upsides of the BM gems massively.