Why are you, as a player, against an auction house similar to D3's?
" Yeah, that´s what i ment actually...>.< IGN: FlinkeKlinge
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I like an auction house because it allows me to throw items out there to be sold and get back to the actual playing of the game. The problem with games like Path of Exile and Diablo III is trying to figure out the value of items because the value of an item can change drastically with or without one particular mod on a rare. Then there are blue items that someone might want to regal. Item level, sockets, links. If you want to understand the economy you have to get involved in it.
Diablo II's system was still the best and the only game where I've ever enjoyed trading in the slightest. Advertise item, go out and do more farming runs while waiting for someone to join the game. Make the trade, leave the game, sell something else or farm in a private game. You were also limited to the number of games you could see at a time which meant you weren't overwhelmed looking through potential trade games for something you wanted. Sure it also meant you might not sell your item as quickly as you want but it didn't matter because you were still playing the game WHILE actively playing which to me is the biggest draw of any trading system. Right now, I don't like PoE's system. You either post here on the official forums to sell (which gets moved to the second page really fast) or spam ingame (which means you're not playing and again competing with spam). I can understand the value of things to a certain degree, but the actual selling is still a massive pain so I'm just personally turned off to the whole experience. I believe GGG said at one point they wanted to allow trading to happen through the website which would've been great. A way to share your stash and have people make offers or something along those lines. That I think would be the best option. Whether it's even remotely possible I have no idea. IGN: Alfrost, Racthoh, The_Crimson
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" Correct they want to have public stash tabs they you can view what people are selling.. then you contact them either in game or forum or what have you to trade.. As for a physical trade AH forget it.. If there is a Hell! I'll see you there! Última edição por Necx#2253 em 6 de fev. de 2013 12:54:02
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"When you have an auction house, everyone sells everything they find immediately because they don't have to put any effort into it.
This allows more players to buy high-end gear. This creates a need to rebalance the game so that people with high end gear are not getting bored quickly. This creates a game that demands that you have high end gear in order to play. This changes the game into focusing on gearing up a single character as much as you can so that you can participate in end-game content and never building alts because you cannot afford gearing 2 or more characters ever since your main will never have good enough gear. ... When people have to actually put an effort into selling stuff, less stuff gets sold and more is kept for alts. Less people get high end gear and the game really doesn't need a rebalance to cater to top shelf geared characters. A better experience, IMO. This, even blizzard has admitted to having to balance drop rates around the AH in order to slow down progression. This is why you can't find a good drop in that game to save your life and why you are time and time again forced to go the the ah in order to progress. This isn't a theory its simply a harsh reality of how having an ah affects game balance and why if GGG ever puts one in I am will ne done with this game. If I want to spend all my time staring at am AH screen I already have D3 for that. Your just not seeing the bigger picture and focusing on a short term bonus(you get what you want as easy as clicking a button) and not taking into account what long term affects it has on the game. It will make the loot hunt trivial just like it did in D3 and it will cause the same issues." This. A thousand times this. I am a designer - from my experience this is what will happen. Trade should be a hassle. |
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" This is what killed diablo 3.. look everyone running around BIS gear.. and everyone got bored shortly after you get it.. AH really dumbs down the game.. In exile one does not AH... you survive and trade... If there is a Hell! I'll see you there!
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I don't see the reason why we need an auction house. On your post, you provided information about your chat and trades. You're trying to trade something while in a group? Why can't you do it after you finish with the group? Also, when you sell something, put up an offer like you did in the whisper. People are more likely to offer you crap or less likely to whisper you.
How do we know the value of a certain items? Just constantly read the trade chat, you will see a lot of people trying to sell their stuff. Or put up an bad offer and people will start correcting your price, and from that point, you can decide whether it is worth it or not. This is how we do trades in the past, in mmorpg and aprg that does NOT have an auction house. Getting an auction house is just a way of telling us that you want to play AND make money at the same time. Can you guys get the "making money mentality" out of your brain already? We don't even HAVE gold in this game. Enjoy the game and find your own stuff, and if you need something, use the trade chat. Stop being so impatience. Also, the idea of having a limited auction is a waste of time and resources. Either implement the AH with no limit, or don't implement it at all because people will ALWAYS find a way to exploit the limits. Really guys, think about it, let's say your friend or some stranger found something that you want and you offer him a trade and your friend say "Nah dude, I can sell this for way more in the auction" OR "Let me check the auction and see the value of this item". Seriously? This isn't healthy. Última edição por aznfeylo#2719 em 6 de fev. de 2013 12:59:07
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Game need AH badly.
spamming chat with trades is so 90s. that time ppl had more time. todays ppl dont have time spam chat hour, ppl want play game with that little time they have. Ofc some hardcore geeks that life in basement defend game to death. |
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" That is YOUR problem. Having little to no time to play is YOUR choice. You can choose to play, you can choose to work, you can choose to be jobless so you can play more or you can choose to play with that little time of yours. Don't make people suffer because of your own action. Not a very good excuse. So, should we limit people on how much they can play too because YOU have little time to play? Hardcore geeks that "life" in basement has nothing to do with topics. And we're not defending it, we're trying to suggest that it is not an good idea to have an Auction house just like you guys are suggesting on how Auction house will benefits you. |
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" Typical D3 player right there. Just another reason to not add ah. |
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Well, we've seen how well it worked out for D3...
That said, in my opinion, an AH (gold only) is a great thing in slower paced games such as WoW. But this isnt WoW, or even close to that kind of game. By introducing an element such as the AH, people will spend less time playing, and alot of time flipping. It detracts from the games real focus. kill kill kill, loot loot loot. Thats just my opinion. GGG - Why you no?
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