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Nagisawa escreveu:

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scrtwpnx escreveu:

i play a melee templar. i use zombies and skeletons combined with a rejuv totem. it works great. build and play around difficulties. dont' ask the game developers to babysit you.

Ah, the truth is, you don't want them to make your special snowflake build obsolete is?

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scrtwpnx escreveu:

edit: i'm not a melee summoner. i use sweep and glacial hammer as aoe and single target

But you use a totem and skeletons and zombies.

Which pretty much negates your statement. No, you ARE a melee summoner. DEAL WITH IT.

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You really can't be considered a "summoner" unless the majority of your dps comes from summons.

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c2games escreveu:

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Tomorrow escreveu:

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c2games escreveu:

They don't want face tanking and yet, they give us arctic armor so we can face tank.

Please provide video evidence of you face tank maps.

Do you not understand what the message means? You don't take it literally. It means the direction of adding arctic armor is towards face tanking. So easy to forget there are people who don't read between the lines on the internet.

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rephikul escreveu:

Arctic Armour? Face tanking? Load of bullshit. Unless you want to go OOM, you have to turn it on/off it every 2 second and even then you'd have to invest significantly in mp regen to keep up something that's like 2 endurance charge at best. These new upcoming melee skills arent all that glorious either, survivability remains the same.

Here, a visual demonstration of meleeing in POE:

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CanHasPants escreveu:

@Moos: Was it in your op I read the idea about a PB Armour keystone? Lol, been 20 pages, I can't remember :P At any rate, what I proposed was to make this a fundamental mechanic of armour, and not an "option." Why? Partially because such a thing would essentially "bandaid fix" armour, and like IR/WS, would not really be an option at all. It would also skew the Str tree's primary defense into melee range for it to be useful. This would give something mechanically unique to melee, as the heart of the issue is to find something that makes melee stronger without also making ranged stronger.

Add on top of that your suggestion to reduce the life nodes available to the Str tree, increase the armour nodes available, and my suggestion to add a (small) flat % DR to armour while slightly reducing the returns on its scalar formula. The flat % DR will be necessary against spike damage given the relatively smaller life pool, and decreasing the scalar portion will also be necessary to prevent AR builds from being nigh immortal to swarm packs like monkeys and tentacle rape monsters.

When its all said and done, I think melee would be in a much better place. Inherently weaker versus ranged mobs, and so would want to close the gap fast, where they have adequate defenses to actually absorb hits without immediately melting (or requiring 9million life nodes). Melee improves, build diversity flourishes, everybody wins.

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CanHasPants escreveu:

Only question at this point is, what is a reasonable amount (total) of armour for a balanced character to posess around levels 70-80? Just so I can quantify my idle thoughts :)

And I didn't mean to remove life from Str per say, but along the lines of your op; fewer life nodes in the Str tree, more in the Dex tree, and more armour nodes to compensate.

Also, interesting possibilities abound for focusing Str on more DR and less life: A keystone that makes life regen, leech, stun, status effects, etc, a function of armour rather than life (obviously, not all of those, just listed a few possibilities).

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Moosifer escreveu:

You gotta first flatten the armor curve