Facebreaker Nerf

I wonder if we could get a GGG person to perhaps elaborate on the comments made in Melbourne to deaden some of this present FUD.

I'm still just shocked that FB was chosen for "adjustments" (whatever that means FUD!!!!).

I wonder if they'll nerf the 4k dps lvl 20 Pillar of the Cage god builds next? They build very similar to FB in that they gear dependent and can be very high dps early.

Really hope this doesn't come to pass,

I just spent most of my weekend leveling my FB toon to get to 65. 2 more levels and I'll be able to wear the BoR I found on another toon.(wasn't even thinking about an FB build until I found that helm) Right now I'm following a build heavily reliant on a shield. I've had to change out the FB's for a regular pair of gloves and one handed weapon just to keep up on DPS in merciless(act 2 currently). Only about 2k dps right now. The build won't seriously shine until I can equip that BoR in terms of damage, but I'm also going to lose the extra stats from a chest piece and 1 handed weapon.

I really don't see an issue with this item at all. As others have said, the drawbacks balance the item already. It's also fun as hell to use infernal blow with it and blow up shit-throwing monkeys en masse! =)

It's possible the only nerf they have planned would be something like not being able to have anything in your hands IE: no shield, weapon or quiver.

Edit: Just realized with BoR and FB you would lose 12 sockets basically, if they make it so you can not be holding any item at least.

ttt

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JohnNamikaze escreveu:

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rahven32 escreveu:

Edit: Just make Facebreaker an end-game item and be done with it.

Agreed. CHange lvl req from 16 to 46 and all is well.

I think we are all thinking worse case here, I can't imagine them adjusted the ONLY unarmed item to become unuseable?

the damage is good mayb a little strong early on but so are many other skills doesn't make sense.

then lets look at the drawbacks to the glove itself trivial amounts of ev/es so loss of defenses there, no life or res.

Then the most common build paths use 3,4 or even 5 uniques, so lets look at the downsides (balance) here.

meginords - higer life and res rolls easily attainable on rares

BOR - sweet damage, no chest double slot res loss

abyssus - increased phys damage taken. Meanwhile we have to stand on monsters toes to punch them seems pretty legit. Again res and life loss

lionseye remorse - good armour and spell block, no res or life

so this leave us with as little as 3 slots to cap resists and have reasonable HP and armour
I play on onslaught btw so man it is pretty hard to cap resists with jeweellery that needs phys damage and life rolls.

so then we need to pick up res and life on tree

I don't really see how it could be nerfed much further the damage is fairly spot on the survivability is already tough.

the player attention is quite high too whether its chaining immortal calls, curses or maintaining endurance charges, because when your surrounded by a pack of mobs it cam be all over. Which ironically is how you have to play the entire time right in the fray

bit different set of consequences for old mate low life RF sporker throwing some totems and keeping up PCoC if I cam be bothered. Or don't need to hide behind a wall or 3 rooms away.

fingers cross it doesn't get ruined.

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epedizzle escreveu:

I think we are all thinking worse case here, I can't imagine them adjusted the ONLY unarmed item to become unuseable?

Great post, epedizzle, and very valid points!

It's easy to start fretting over worst case scenarios when GGG is being so quiet about it. I would love to see them lift the veil and clarify the reddit remark. I mean, I'm too depressed to buy stuff from the ethical microtransactions shop for my marauder. Egads...

Seriously, talk to us, someone, please?

Could just make the "more physical damage"-part level dependant to stop FB from rolling through low level content. Although tbh I don't see a problem with that, there are other low level uniques that make Normal/Cruel a complete walk in the park, and for these items it's their only use.

bump :)