"This loot system is flawed and needs to change!!"

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DrMucas escreveu:

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tinghshi escreveu:

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Tandimonium escreveu:

I don't think I am better then you. I just think you need to accept the game as is and not try to create another D3 (Which is still for sale at a store near you!). Stop acting like everyone should cater to you. This is the only game with this loot style and I LIKE IT. So, stop trying to change it and we will get along!

Oh the irony. You tell me you don't think you're better than me, yet you tell me that my opinion is apparently "wrong" and yours is "right". Why should I stop just because you don't like it? Who do you think you are? If you think changing the loot system turns this game into D3, then you are just too stupid to argue with.

Its the fact that like politicians once you give them a inch they will take a mile, if changes to the game mechanics are changed how long until they demand that a auction house be implemented or full respecs oh wait they are already demanding them or they will quit.

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Zenn3k escreveu:

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Delmas escreveu:

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Zenn3k escreveu:

FFA loot just teaches new players the grouping = bad.

If you think the game is going to survive by teaching new players that playing with others is a bad idea, you're deluding yourself.


Replace "Timer" with "Lock", meaning that if an item drops with a set name on it (as current), it can only be picked up by that person.

That solves item theft on items that are suppose to be "yours".
It DOES NOT make loot instanced, and avoids all the problems related to that.
Better still, it helps encourage MULTIPLAYER.

Why should I group with other people if it means only getting 10% of loot I'd normally be getting? Besides some XP, which is really just about time spent...there is no honest benefit.

I don't want PoE to be a solo ONLY game, however, thats currently exactly what it is.

1st, the items were never yours.
2nd, it only teaches bad players that grouping is bad.
3rd, game will survive with or without you.

Delmas, you're an idiot.

1: If I solo, anything on the screen is "mine". It only STOP being "mine" when I introduce another player, so why should I EVER do that? Can you kindly answer that question? Why should I EVER group? Why? There is no benefit, only negatives.
2: Arrogance, pure arrogance. Skill in playing the game has NO relation to ability to click on items on the ground, kindly STFU.
3: Maybe, maybe not. It certainly does not help incoming revenue to allow anyone who attempts to play with others to have a bad experience.

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Zenn3k escreveu:

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Delmas escreveu:

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Zenn3k escreveu:

1: Everything is mine, I am simply choosing if I want to pick it up or not. Choosing not to pick up an item doesn't make it any less mine.
2: So if the melee runs off by themselves and kills things, and some of those kills results in drops for the Ranger he is grouped with...its the Ranger's fault?
3: K, I KNOW the game and the forums would be better off without you, so we'll call that even

Your arguments are incredibly poor.

You and I should group up, I'll follow you and pick up all the items while you kill everything...anything that drops with YOUR name I'll just stop what I'm doing and click on that until either I get it, or you stop attacking and pick it up before me. After all that, and I have tons of orbs and you have jack shit...you can let me know if you wanna group up again.

That experience not sound good? Well thats a LOT of players experience during play and thats NOT going to make them want to stick around and buy cosmetic items.

Learn what is and what is NOT healthy for a game like this before you open up your NON SUPPORTER ass and speak.

1st, I do not group with noobs/ragers/ninjas

Everything on the ground is yours? That is your argument? Then you call my arguments bad?

You being a supporter does not increase your intelligence.

I am done with you, how can you convince somebody anything when they ignore all logic?

You didn't answer the questions posed, no surprise

You ignored the question following the hypothetical grouping scenario.

I see no logic from you at all, nothing you have stated even makes logical sense. "Nothing is yours"...illogical and incorrect.

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Zenn3k escreveu:

You didn't answer the questions posed, no surprise

You ignored the question following the hypothetical grouping scenario.

I see no logic from you at all, nothing you have stated even makes logical sense. "Nothing is yours"...illogical and incorrect.

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DrMucas escreveu:

Its the fact that like politicians once you give them a inch they will take a mile, if changes to the game mechanics are changed how long until they demand that a auction house be implemented or full respecs oh wait they are already demanding them or they will quit.

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Delmas escreveu:

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KorganBloodaxe escreveu:

Well the reason why I don't like VoIP is that I sound like Arnold Schwarzenegger when I talk English, so I try to avoid that :)

Wait I would love to have the terminator in my party!

We could coin all orbs as "choppers" and then when one falls you could yell to the ninjas'

"get to the chopper"

Sounds pretty epic to me =P

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ByteMyAscii escreveu:

FFA is about who is able to get to the loot first, often the nearest person and who has the space for it at the time in their inventory.

That is not a fair system, it is not a badge of honour, it is simply being in the right place at the right time.

Sheer dumb luck.

Random loot and the extra random factor in who receives it means that there is no meaning to you receiving it over some other party member who made a similar contribution to the result.

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Tandimonium escreveu:

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Zenn3k escreveu:

Delmas, you're an idiot.

1: If I solo, anything on the screen is "mine". It only STOP being "mine" when I introduce another player, so why should I EVER do that? Can you kindly answer that question? Why should I EVER group? Why? There is no benefit, only negatives.
2: Arrogance, pure arrogance. Skill in playing the game has NO relation to ability to click on items on the ground, kindly STFU.
3: Maybe, maybe not. It certainly does not help incoming revenue to allow anyone who attempts to play with others to have a bad experience.

This game was designed by people who don't like things spoon fed to them. I hear Blizzard is even giving out sporks if your interested in a spoon fed gaming experience. I guess you should NEVER bring in another player. If you could just do that and be quiet at the same time, I think we all would have a win today.

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Tandimonium escreveu:

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KorganBloodaxe escreveu:

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Delmas escreveu:

It is yours because your build would use it? This is not well defined, but if I were playing with you(I wouldn't) I probably give it to you if you said you would use it.

Nice, but most players who are ninjas don't do that.

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Tandimonium escreveu:

Sir, please step out of the Azeroth portal and look around...No one cares that you were too slow to get the loot. It is not yours, and will never be yours unless you man up and get into the action, or trade for it. It doesn't matter who it fits best with, if I find a pair of speedos before you THEN THEY ARE MINE! Go cry about it while I do the safety dance!

I never played WoW so I cannot comply.

And as several of us stated before:
Because of the loot system we play solo, where everything is ours.
But always playing solo is completely retarded for an online game.

Also you could step out of your Diablo2 Portal.
All we ever hear from FFA-likers is "It's like that, deal with it"
Rational arguments seem to be rare in D2-Land, they shouldn't be rare in Wraeclast.

Well to be fair there are a LOT of little demons poking you in the ribs in diablo 2 land. By FFA-Likers, you mean people who actually like the game the developers put out? SHAME ON US!