"This loot system is flawed and needs to change!!"

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Aurlon escreveu:

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JoannaDark escreveu:

The game doesn't adapt to you, you adapt to the game.

Cute, but no. The game adapts to the needs of its audience (whatever that may be) or it dies.

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Totalchaos88 escreveu:

They say a picture is worth 1000 words? This is why the loot system needs to be changed:

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Juggernaut448 escreveu:

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Aurlon escreveu:

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JoannaDark escreveu:

The game doesn't adapt to you, you adapt to the game.

Cute, but no. The game adapts to the needs of its audience (whatever that may be) or it dies.

I have an issue with this type of thought process right here. This is wrong.

I've been gaming since I was 7. Back then I thought that if a level was hard or if there was something I couldn't do in a game, I'd figure out ways to beat that hard level, or would practice doing that hard issue in order to become better. This type of thing made me enjoy the game even more because I could tell I was getting better at it.

Today, we have your kind of people. You want it easier by default. If it was yours, then you deserve it. No. That's not how it goes. You adapt or you lose. Darwinism, survival of the fittest. If you can't pick up that loot fast enough, get better at it. This isn't an issue with the game itself, it's player side.

Also, a game that "adapts" to it's audience is generally a dumbed down, overrated, satire strewn piece of garbage. There are many games that have done this and I regret playing them.

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nimbukie escreveu:

I believe something needs to change, but not sure that I want them to spend too much of their precious development time on reworking the loot system completly. I'd be happy with the timer being increased to about as long as it takes for us to finish off a particually nasty rare maybe 30-60 seconds. That way if I'm "that guy" that doesn't pick up his loot my team can come back after the fact and mop up.

This change would do the following:

First, I'm not disenaging from the fight to loot, which causes uneeded risk to the party and myself.

Second, My team members are not disengaging from the fight to hover over loot that has someone else's name on it waiting for the timer to wear off.



And then if after the timer goes off you loot something without your name on it no one can call you a ninja.....

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indczn escreveu:

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nimbukie escreveu:

I believe something needs to change, but not sure that I want them to spend too much of their precious development time on reworking the loot system completly. I'd be happy with the timer being increased to about as long as it takes for us to finish off a particually nasty rare maybe 30-60 seconds. That way if I'm "that guy" that doesn't pick up his loot my team can come back after the fact and mop up.

This change would do the following:

First, I'm not disenaging from the fight to loot, which causes uneeded risk to the party and myself.

Second, My team members are not disengaging from the fight to hover over loot that has someone else's name on it waiting for the timer to wear off.



And then if after the timer goes off you loot something without your name on it no one can call you a ninja.....

Increasing the loot timer like this is unacceptable. I play with friends, and this just leads to a ton of wasted time. Either "here come pick something way over here" which requires waiting to move on to killing, or *stand around waiting for timer to expire* before moving on. Both require wasting time waiting on a stupid timer that a stupid RNG is incapable of dropping loot to the right person. This has nothing to do with ninja-looting or anything, but rather efficiently distributing loot to the right person in a group, and a long timer is in my opinion the absolute worst "fix" they could possibly add. This sort of unnecessary delay will affect the outcome of races. It will turn the timer from a mere nuisance to a full blown aggravation.

I get it, looting in public parties can suck, but I will be mighty upset if GGG "fixes" looting for public parties to the detriment of a group that prefers to play at a quick pace.

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KorganBloodaxe escreveu:

That is why I'd like an option.
Playing with a group of friends and want to get rid of timer? Sure why not.
Playing with strangers and don't want a single player scooping everything up? Increase the length of the timer.

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mrmath escreveu:

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Hadrijan escreveu:

Make the timer last a bit longer if nothing else.

As it stands now we have a legion of ninja looters in this, i must say great game, who are not even being very helpful in fights, instead they are waiting for a chance to pick everything up like bloody vultures and are usually very eager to leave some insulting remark toward the rest of the party after the fight is over and their bag is full.

This is ruining the party based play experience especially for those who play ranged classes and there are plenty of those.

A legion?

People outright trolling parties by doing nothing but going for drops and trashtalking are exceedingly rare.

The vast majority of public parties are not like this at all. Join another party.

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Juggernaut448 escreveu:

I have an issue with this type of thought process right here. This is wrong.

I've been gaming since I was 7. Back then I thought that if a level was hard or if there was something I couldn't do in a game, I'd figure out ways to beat that hard level, or would practice doing that hard issue in order to become better. This type of thing made me enjoy the game even more because I could tell I was getting better at it.

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Juggernaut448 escreveu:

Today, we have your kind of people.

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Juggernaut448 escreveu:

You want it easier by default. If it was yours, then you deserve it. No. That's not how it goes. You adapt or you lose.

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Juggernaut448 escreveu:

Darwinism, survival of the fittest.

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Juggernaut448 escreveu:

If you can't pick up that loot fast enough, get better at it.

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Juggernaut448 escreveu:

This isn't an issue with the game itself, it's player side.

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Juggernaut448 escreveu:

Also, a game that "adapts" to it's audience is generally a dumbed down, overrated, satire strewn piece of garbage. There are many games that have done this and I regret playing them.

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Juggernaut448 escreveu:

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Aurlon escreveu:

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JoannaDark escreveu:

The game doesn't adapt to you, you adapt to the game.

Cute, but no. The game adapts to the needs of its audience (whatever that may be) or it dies.

I have an issue with this type of thought process right here. This is wrong.

I've been gaming since I was 7. Back then I thought that if a level was hard or if there was something I couldn't do in a game, I'd figure out ways to beat that hard level, or would practice doing that hard issue in order to become better. This type of thing made me enjoy the game even more because I could tell I was getting better at it.

Today, we have your kind of people. You want it easier by default. If it was yours, then you deserve it. No. That's not how it goes. You adapt or you lose. Darwinism, survival of the fittest. If you can't pick up that loot fast enough, get better at it. This isn't an issue with the game itself, it's player side.

Also, a game that "adapts" to it's audience is generally a dumbed down, overrated, satire strewn piece of garbage. There are many games that have done this and I regret playing them.

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Juggernaut448 escreveu:

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Aurlon escreveu:

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JoannaDark escreveu:

The game doesn't adapt to you, you adapt to the game.

Cute, but no. The game adapts to the needs of its audience (whatever that may be) or it dies.

I have an issue with this type of thought process right here. This is wrong.

I've been gaming since I was 7. Back then I thought that if a level was hard or if there was something I couldn't do in a game, I'd figure out ways to beat that hard level, or would practice doing that hard issue in order to become better. This type of thing made me enjoy the game even more because I could tell I was getting better at it.

Today, we have your kind of people. You want it easier by default. If it was yours, then you deserve it. No. That's not how it goes. You adapt or you lose. Darwinism, survival of the fittest. If you can't pick up that loot fast enough, get better at it. This isn't an issue with the game itself, it's player side.

Also, a game that "adapts" to it's audience is generally a dumbed down, overrated, satire strewn piece of garbage. There are many games that have done this and I regret playing them.