One Shot Mechanic is ruining the gaming experience, listen to the community

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Takamorisan escreveu:

Problem is the zoom zoom meta, so everyone wants to play a glass cannon that has good clear speed. But don't want to admit their build lacks in hp,es,armor,ev or dodge.

Like the true issue is instead of people trying to understand the numbers, they go to the forums, favorite streamer, poe ninja and copy a build. The person don't understand why it was setup that way. Then stuff happens "Ah shit game it sucks one shot QQ", then you are going to ask what happened? Oh I was delirium in a map with Extra Crit, Vuln and I got shocked by a Delirium projectile, with some random pantheon on the build that is not even indicated for map clearing

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Fapmobile escreveu:

If you want ggg to listen, then provide an actual solution or ideas to discuss here.

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If you want ggg to listen, then provide an actual solution

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Nomancs escreveu:

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MasterTBC escreveu:

The game has nothing to do with player skill

One shots are simply RNG

It is based on:
1. player decision
2. math

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MasterTBC escreveu:

playing low content or increasing your defence will lower the chance for one shot but you will never reach 0%

The problem is that in high content the chance to get one shot is just way to high and even op builds can get one shotted

That is false, you can be immortal in this game with proper build.

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MasterTBC escreveu:

They should increase player HP significantly and then reintroduce proper mechanics that you need to and can dodge to create actual challenge while other non telegraphed damage shouldnt be able to deal more than 10% of your HP

So we will have diablo 3/grim dawn level of difficulty (level 0)?

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Takamorisan escreveu:

Problem is the zoom zoom meta, so everyone wants to play a glass cannon that has good clear speed. But don't want to admit their build lacks in hp,es,armor,ev or dodge.

Like the true issue is instead of people trying to understand the numbers, they go to the forums, favorite streamer, poe ninja and copy a build. The person don't understand why it was setup that way. Then stuff happens "Ah shit game it sucks one shot QQ", then you are going to ask what happened? Oh I was delirium in a map with Extra Crit, Vuln and I got shocked by a Delirium projectile, with some random pantheon on the build that is not even indicated for map clearing

Like I'm not saying the game is perfect, for example the arenas in Simulacrum are too small, in higher waves mid-high builds suffer to put the dps output to clear the mobs and avoid being overwhelmed by the insane amount of stacked projectiles since the small arena summed with the regular mob damage mitigation, so you create a fun situation for higher build where you have to clutch through the mobs and use really well your move skills, but its really unfriendly for newer players.

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Foreverhappychan escreveu:

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girng escreveu:

GGG left the gaming experience behind around 2014

https://www.pcgamer.com/au/path-of-exile-review-2014/

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[Path of Exile] can't match the visual splendour and satisfying feedback of Diablo III. The combat improves after the first few hours when you start fighting large and varied swarms, but occasional lag and dsync issues can send your slashes right through monsters, and the varied and plentiful attacks lack the apocalyptic thwunk of PoE's big-budget competitor. That might be because the engine lacks the physics capabilities to render responsive ragdolls. It's still entertaining to wade through PoE's larger mobs, but the combat isn't quite best-in-class.

This is the most critical part of that review, and I wonder if it still holds as such.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1156228/page/1

And here's something a little less detached. Funny reading Chris' enthusiasm for the Taiwan Garena venture, given how hard it was going to crash and burn. Not to mention his attempt at writing Chinese, an early (and perhaps a little eerie) foreshadowing of the game's ultimate destiny as a Chinese-owned product, owned by the very people who don't exactly love Taiwan...

But more pertinently, there's this:

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In 2014:
We released two expansions - Sacrifice of the Vaal and Forsaken Masters and six new challenge leagues - Ambush, Invasion, Rampage, Beyond, Torment and Bloodlines.

That's it. This was before a lot of almost objective gameplay improvements to the game, including the implementation of lockstep, which effectively dealt with PoE's biggest problem, desync (mid 2015), Ascendancy classes (early 2016), and the ten-act revamp (mid 2017). So I think you may have reached a bit too far back to decide when GGG 'left the gaming experience'.

THAT SAID, the game has one one-shot mechanics from before any of those events (as anyone who has ever been off-screen wrecked by the original Hailrake will attest), so if you measure your idea of 'the gaming experience' by the presence (or absence) of one-shot mechanics, then you could say that happened before the game was even released...

But that seems a little unrealistic. One-shot mechanics are, I think, part of the PoE gaming experience. The difference is back then, we didn't think it was the result of failing a dps check or not having traded for the requisite gear (given trading was done via dropping items, trade was then not something GGG balanced around). Perhaps we were wrong. But we also never had to deal with screen spam so intense it makes 'gameplay' in a tactical sense a complete joke...just desync, which ironically prevented GGG from overindulging in screen spam.

Nothing's really changed. One-shot mechanics then; one-shot mechanics now. Support packs sold well then; support packs sell even better now.

And which do you people think GGG are more apt to listen to: your vocal gripes about this issue or that, or the absolute proof that despite those gripes, the game must be making a lot of people happy because they keep throwing money at it?