General Discussion - The truth about RMT and Botting - Fórum

Spoiler " lososthefish escreveu: Blizzard had 10 million players. We have 100k. Managing such a small population of gamers is not that hard and bots are not running rampant. You are utterly missing my points almost every time and focus on something entirely different. I have some experience with bots from server management side. This "I know better attitude" supported only by self invented statements does not convince me. I'm far from naive. It's the exact opposite. I just know that people always get what they want. I know some people bash other people for wanting something in their option immoral. The later get bent after some time. That's how cultural evolution occurs. You can control, guide the needs of people, but if you are trying to stop them by force, you will fail miserably. Exactly how your quoted Blizzard has failed in both of their games. Botting is being actively reduced by staff. Very few people use bots, mostly those who are already at the top of the ladders with the best items. You can check those guys easy when you have 100k players and only dunno - 1k good ones. If you use a bot and still suck... oh well. This problem is like a pumped baloon because you blame people having good items and inflation on bots. Their impact is really minor. Another proof? WoW inflation was not 20% a week, as ours, and they had tens of thousands of bots. Inflation there was very slow and they had GOLD. We have crazy orb barter and crazy high inflation. Bots are an unrelated problem really. I guess...so the real underlying issue is demand vs supply. I really think orbs being common would solve a lot of problems. Sure RMT sites would probably sell items but their profit would be severely reduced due to the fact that players could make their own items. "I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity." - Edgar Allan Poe IGN: DarkenedSoui	Postado por ShaeG#0897 em 16 de jun. de 2013 06:32:45 Citar este Post
" Hovergame escreveu: Someone telling how the game is only about grinding (and NOTHING more) has missed the point, and OH MY GOD, he isn't playing any highend content ATM, what a surprise. The best players were 60+ in less than 20H. Why everybody will more than 20h played (on a given char) isn't level 60+, if the game was ONLY time rewarding ? About looting/crafting, the same logic applies. My answer : most people (me included) aren't good at this game. But, at least, I can figure why and not only, like 95% of the noobs, say "they are at the top ONLY because thay can play 12h/day". No, you can find streamiers playing 12h/day and not close of the top. Of course, playing 12h/day AND being good is the only way to be at the top of any ladder. And if you don't have enough time, try races. You don't need to play 12h/day to get a good ranking there. I find this logic funny. Just because someone isn't a masochist and doesn't enjoy playing past lvl 70 doesn't mean they suck or know nothing about the game. I knew this rogue in wow who never did arena or Rated battlegrounds all he did was normal battlegrounds and dueled. It was funny because he had no rating and schooled players on 2500 rated teams. You think one man has more wisdom just because he is older? Haha. You think there's a difference in being lvl 66 in a lvl 66 map and being lvl 75 in a lvl 75 map? If anything... The higher you get past 80 the EASIER the game gets. "I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity." - Edgar Allan Poe IGN: DarkenedSoui	Postado por ShaeG#0897 em 16 de jun. de 2013 06:39:05 Citar este Post
I should to answer to "I R SKILLED LULZ" noob. They always come back with their shitty example of a single guy, who wasn't spamming forums with (basically) BUFF ME LULZ ! And yes, ATM there is a huge difference between being 6 in a level 66 map and 75 in a level 75 map. Your question just shows how noob you are.	Postado por Hovergame#7060 em 16 de jun. de 2013 07:14:20 Citar este Post
" Hovergame escreveu: I should to answer to "I R SKILLED LULZ" noob. They always come back with their shitty example of a single guy, who wasn't spamming forums with (basically) BUFF ME LULZ ! And yes, ATM there is a huge difference between being 6 in a level 66 map and 75 in a level 75 map. Your question just shows how noob you are. you know what? two can play this game. opens Poe Statistics hmm, let's see. here: "Hovergame". plays a lot. races a lot. best Ladder character 2 levels higher than mine. Ranger. which - if using your troll logic - means "ranged", so you don't know how to play melee trololololol moving on. started playing in March. I started when Open Beta did. January if I'm not mistaken. troll logic kicks in again must be NOOB trololololol. I R SKILLED LULZ. BUFF ME LULZ! I can stop here if you got the point. calling people "noobs" makes you a troll. calling people "noobs" based on PoeStatistics alone, makes you a really dumb troll. just play and enjoy the game, and let others do the same. and if you are to argue about something in the forums, do so like a civilized human being. Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat Shadow: That was fun Última edição por johnKeys#6083 em 16 de jun. de 2013 07:39:29	Postado por johnKeys#6083 em 16 de jun. de 2013 07:34:18 Citar este Post
Did I posted about how the orbs drops were too low ? No. Did I posted anything about how melee is viable/not viable ? No. Did I posted anyhting about maps drops were too low ? No. Oh, 2 level undermine in SC. I can give a viable build to pass Merciless as ranger without dying, I don't know if you can. "Started playing in march" : no. entered the LADDERS in march, there is a "small" difference. If you want to know, Pluria was my first ranger, but I fucked his tree, and I created Teraelle, but with an improved gear, I was able to play with Pluria. If you want to post a suggestion, GET A CLUE ABOUT IT BEFORE POSTING. If you can't, no I won't discuss in a "human manner". About the levels, any player who EVER tried a level 75 maps knows what I'm talking about. Yes, I did once, I tried there, and I alt-F4. But I can go to Merciless Piety (probably not kill her) before being 68. Última edição por Hovergame#7060 em 16 de jun. de 2013 07:42:21	Postado por Hovergame#7060 em 16 de jun. de 2013 07:40:06 Citar este Post
" Hovergame escreveu: I should to answer to "I R SKILLED LULZ" noob. They always come back with their shitty example of a single guy, who wasn't spamming forums with (basically) BUFF ME LULZ ! And yes, ATM there is a huge difference between being 6 in a level 66 map and 75 in a level 75 map. Your question just shows how noob you are. Ad hominem.... But, elaborate oh most experienced one. Please do divulge our intellect with your vast knowledge. Tell me the difference. Calling names? What are you 8 yrs old or still living with mum? You may actually come off as a person with brain cells if you contribute to a conversation. People like you never realize that they are actually making an ass of themselves. "I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity." - Edgar Allan Poe IGN: DarkenedSoui	Postado por ShaeG#0897 em 16 de jun. de 2013 07:40:22 Citar este Post
Hi there, Please keep the replies constructive and refrain from Ad Hominem remarks. Further antagonistic remarks may result in the thread being locked. Thanks! Kind regards, Luca GGG Support	Postado por Luca_GGG em 16 de jun. de 2013 07:43:31 Grinding Gear Games Citar este Post
Thank you Luca <3 "I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity." - Edgar Allan Poe IGN: DarkenedSoui Última edição por ShaeG#0897 em 16 de jun. de 2013 07:46:31	Postado por ShaeG#0897 em 16 de jun. de 2013 07:45:46 Citar este Post
" ShaeG escreveu: Ad hominem.... But, elaborate oh most experienced one. Please do divulge our intellect with your vast knowledge. Tell me the difference. Calling names? What are you 8 yrs old or still living with mum? You may actually come off as a person with brain cells if you contribute to a conversation. People like you never realize that they are actually making an ass of themselves. thank you for the insult. The difference ? I tried a level 75 map, I almost died and left. The damage is crazy, the DPS needed is crazy. On the opposite, I can go to Piety (probably without killing her) as level, let's say 65. And about the REAL topic, a captcha sucks and is boring. You would need to put them outside fights and it will kill the speed of the game. Making orb common, and trying to hide it behing RMT is just a way to hide a "BUFF ME" thread. Última edição por Hovergame#7060 em 16 de jun. de 2013 07:53:20	Postado por Hovergame#7060 em 16 de jun. de 2013 07:53:11 Citar este Post
looks like I'll need to explain myself further. " Hovergame escreveu: Did I posted about how the orbs drops were too low ? No. Did I posted anything about how melee is viable/not viable ? No. Did I posted anyhting about maps drops were too low ? No. why not? do you think this game is absolutely perfect? no problems at all? by all means, if you don't like something - post about it. in a constructive way. and offer solutions. that is what Beta is for. " Oh, 2 level undermine in SC. I can give a viable build to pass Merciless as ranger without dying, I don't know if you can. "Started playing in march" : no. entered the LADDERS in march, there is a "small" difference. If you want to know, Pluria was my first ranger, but I fucked his tree, and I created Teraelle, but with an improved gear, I was able to play with Pluria. yeah, let's just go ahead and play that old SC vs HC card. always useful. and the guy doesn't play HC. why am I so sure of that? because no indication in PoeStatistics.johnKeys. PoeStatistics is god. all hail the great PoeStatistics. this teaches me you really didn't get the point: saying you started playing in March is troll logic. saying you don't know how to build melee because Pluria is a Ranger - is troll logic. calling you "NOOB" because of all of the above - is troll logic. " About the levels, any player who EVER tried a level 75 maps knows what I'm talking about. Yes, I did once, I tried there, and I alt-F4. But I can go to Merciless Piety (probably not kill her) before being 68. no I didn't play a 75 map. but I did a 72 one. and I soloed a 70 one. melee. without dying. I R NOOB! HELP! troll logic again. " If you want to post a suggestion, GET A CLUE ABOUT IT BEFORE POSTING. If you can't, no I won't discuss in a "human manner". no comment. all hope for you is lost at this point. Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat Shadow: That was fun Última edição por johnKeys#6083 em 16 de jun. de 2013 07:57:42	Postado por johnKeys#6083 em 16 de jun. de 2013 07:57:11 Citar este Post